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Unpaid overtime when you're doing it willingly is not wrong per se. I've done it and will do it again. When work is interesting it does not really feel like wor

Unpaid overtime when you're doing it willingly is not wrong per se. I've done it and will do it again. When work is interesting it does not really feel like work, does it ? :) As a developer I would love flexible schedule, getting the job done when it's need to be done etc. But what I generally find in France is poor and inflexible management culture. I don't call "unpaid overtime because of poor planning but still come everyday at 9:00 thanks" flexible. And I hate how in certain industry it is said to be "expected" or "normal". I have high (non-CS) skilled friends who do long unpaid hours and if you divide their earnings by the hours they do, they effectively get minimum wage. Getting a burn out or depression from minimum wage, that's not a great deal.

fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
>Unpaid overtime when you're doing it willingly is not wrong per se. If it is occasional, I think it is fine. If OTOH it is a regular occurrence that an employer depends upon, and others who are less willing to join in are compelled to stay because an expectation has been cultivated, that is wrong.
coldtea 13y ago
>Unpaid overtime when you're doing it willingly is not wrong per se. Not wrong, but unprofessional. It poisons the well for the people not willing to do it, and it gives the picture (to your employer) that you are a sucker eager to be exploited, and your time is worth nothing. And when layoffs time come, he could not care less if you did "unpaid overtime" to save some project on death march.