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We are all ripoff artists, myname. Every sound, thought, experience is nothing more than a rearrangement of what already is. There is nothing new under the su

We are all ripoff artists, myname. Every sound, thought, experience is nothing more than a rearrangement of what already is. There is nothing new under the sun.

pj 17y ago
This is a really lame idea and easy to disprove. Go back in time long enough and there were /no/ ideas, therefore, there had to be at least one original idea. If there had to be at least one original idea, there can be many original ideas. There are lots of new things under the sun. Edit: I apologize for the lame part. It's not really lame, that was an emotional response.
- aswanson 17y ago
  I didn't say ideas, I was referring to the rearrangement of matter and energy. Music and sounds and just rearrangements of basic "atoms" that have been around forever. So its not all that lame.
  - pj 17y ago
    Even if you want to go that route, I would still argue that due to the vast number of combinations of atoms in 3D space, there are certainly some that have never before existed in history popping up still today. Lots of the periodic table was created by Humans, which didn't exist at some point in history: http://www.ptable.com/ http://www.ptable.com/ Sure, they could exist in a black hole or whatever, but really what matters is whether or not the material is new to consciousness and exists in memory and many new thoughts/arragements of atoms/etc are exactly that -- new to consciousness.
- aswanson 17y ago
  No harm, no foul. What I wrote was pretty off the cuff and thus I can't vigorously defend it. For the most part, you are correct though. There are new things springing into creation all the time, for some definition of new.
Alterlife 17y ago
And yet... every with every inteligent rearrangement of said existing 'sounds', 'thoughts' and feelings, we create and experiance new and wonderful things.

3 ms·

We are all ripoff artists, myname. Every sound, thought, experience is nothing more than a rearrangement of what already is. There is nothing new under the su

by aswanson 17y ago

We are all ripoff artists, myname. Every sound, thought, experience is nothing more than a rearrangement of what already is. There is nothing new under the sun.

pj 17y ago
This is a really lame idea and easy to disprove. Go back in time long enough and there were /no/ ideas, therefore, there had to be at least one original idea. If there had to be at least one original idea, there can be many original ideas. There are lots of new things under the sun. Edit: I apologize for the lame part. It's not really lame, that was an emotional response.
- aswanson 17y ago
  I didn't say ideas, I was referring to the rearrangement of matter and energy. Music and sounds and just rearrangements of basic "atoms" that have been around forever. So its not all that lame.
  - pj 17y ago
    Even if you want to go that route, I would still argue that due to the vast number of combinations of atoms in 3D space, there are certainly some that have never before existed in history popping up still today. Lots of the periodic table was created by Humans, which didn't exist at some point in history: http://www.ptable.com/ http://www.ptable.com/ Sure, they could exist in a black hole or whatever, but really what matters is whether or not the material is new to consciousness and exists in memory and many new thoughts/arragements of atoms/etc are exactly that -- new to consciousness.
- aswanson 17y ago
  No harm, no foul. What I wrote was pretty off the cuff and thus I can't vigorously defend it. For the most part, you are correct though. There are new things springing into creation all the time, for some definition of new.
Alterlife 17y ago
And yet... every with every inteligent rearrangement of said existing 'sounds', 'thoughts' and feelings, we create and experiance new and wonderful things.