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Flynn 101% Funded

158 points by danielsiders 13y ago

danielsiders 13y ago
Thanks to the folks at AppFog/CenturyLink for putting us over the top!
- girvo 13y ago
  Those guys are awesome. Much better than Heroku IMO.
  - mintplant 13y ago
    I've had all sorts of issues with them, though. Two times apps have out-and-out disappeared from my control panel and from the web, only to mysteriously return later. Both times the apps involved were hosted on their HP infrastructure, so that might be the source of the problem--apps in the AWS infrastructure didn't go through the same issue. Their logging could also use some work. Since setting up some monitoring I've discovered that a few of my apps hosted there will sometimes die and/or restart after running for a while. Unfortunately, the "crash log" feature doesn't seem to work properly--the logs are always blanked out--and as such I'm unable to get to the root of the issue. Availability can be dodgy; right now I have a watcher process that monitors for app failures and restarts any it sees down. Their free plan is unbeatable, though. Up to 2GB RAM with 10 bound services (redis, MongoDB, PostgreSQL, etc). So, my experience has been mixed. I really, really want to love them, but unfortunately I keep running into problems.
julien421 13y ago
gg!
- HeyItsJames 13y ago
  wp.
conroy 13y ago
How is Flynn planning to handle longer lived services such as databases? Do I run the database separate and just use Flynn for app servers?
- Titanous 13y ago
  Flynn is intended to manage and containerize backing services as well. We'll have a system for specifying hosts and volumes that can be used for persistent storage. In the future we also want to add hooks for provisioning, high availability, and more.
  - 1qaz2wsx3edc 13y ago
    How is orchestration handled?
    - Titanous 13y ago
      Orchestration of containers is the purpose of Flynn. We'll create detailed architectural documents in the coming weeks.
- shykes 13y ago
  Flynn apps are docker containers under the hood, so any docker container can be used to extend your Flynn deployment - including databases and pretty much any long-lived service you can think of. Take a look for http://index.docker.io http://index.docker.io for examples.
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rmanalan 13y ago
What's happening with Dokku since Flynn is also going to be open source? My understanding is Flynn is based on Dokku... since Jeff Lindsay is involved.
- progrium 13y ago
  https://github.com/progrium/dokku/issues/129 https://github.com/progrium/dokku/issues/129
zek 13y ago
I think this a very interesting way of funding an open-source project, and I'm glad it worked out. Excited to see how Flynn turns out!
- ihsw 13y ago
  Ubuntu Edge is also getting on the corporate sponsor train, but unfortunately I think they set the bar a bit too high. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge $80K enterprise bundle. It's a bit pricey (even though you get 100 devices), and I'm sure if they offered an $8K option for 10 devices then they'd get a lot more interest than none at all. The $8K price point is almost in splurge territory, and the benefit of having access to workshops and online support would certainly put it over the top.
victorhooi 13y ago
Whew, that's awesome =). I was watching it lately - and it seemed to be hovering around 91% for some time... Looking forward to seeing great things from the project.
mixmastamyk 13y ago
Flynn lives! (A Tron reference).
- john_i 13y ago
  Please don't. It hurts too much to be reminded that the show has ended :(
jaytaylor 13y ago
Shameless plug: In search of folks who'd like early access to my open-source Heroku-esque PaaS: ShipBuilder ShipBuilder is a freely available open-source project which aims to make it fast and easy to deploy arbitrary web-applications. Get total control over all aspects of your staging and production environments. More info: http://shipbuilder.io/ http://shipbuilder.io/ It uses Go, Git, LXC, and HAProxy. Just reply below with your github username, or shoot an email to jay@jaytaylor.com if you are interested in early access.
- argonaut 13y ago
  Have you considered merging efforts with Flynn?
  - jaytaylor 13y ago
    I'm certainly open to the possibility, I want to end up with the best possible open-source PaaS system.
    - argonaut 13y ago
      Me too (not affiliated with Flynn). One of the reasons Rails gained so much mind share (IMO) over the Python ecosystem was fragmentation in Python's ecosystem.
      - shykes 13y ago
        In this case, the way to avoid fragmentation is not to merge but to standardize on the Docker APIs, just like Flynn does. Docker's job is to guarantee interop between PaaS-like components, so that you don't need to lock yourself into a single monolithic PaaS. Everything you build on Docker will benefit Flynn - and Deis, and Dokku, and Maestro, and dockermix, and custom platforms at Ebay, Uber, Cloudflare, Mailgun etc.
- alexwright 13y ago
  Are you doing anything clever to add and remove upstream hosts from the HAProxy instance? When I looked into it (very briefly) there was no kind of programmatic access to do that, among other things.
macarthy12 13y ago
Good news guys. I posted links to the pledge drive from a few places (HN included), hope it helped. Looking forward to the code!

Flynn 101% Funded

158 points by danielsiders 13y ago

danielsiders 13y ago

Thanks to the folks at AppFog/CenturyLink for putting us over the top!

girvo 13y ago
Those guys are awesome. Much better than Heroku IMO.
- mintplant 13y ago
  I've had all sorts of issues with them, though. Two times apps have out-and-out disappeared from my control panel and from the web, only to mysteriously return later. Both times the apps involved were hosted on their HP infrastructure, so that might be the source of the problem--apps in the AWS infrastructure didn't go through the same issue. Their logging could also use some work. Since setting up some monitoring I've discovered that a few of my apps hosted there will sometimes die and/or restart after running for a while. Unfortunately, the "crash log" feature doesn't seem to work properly--the logs are always blanked out--and as such I'm unable to get to the root of the issue. Availability can be dodgy; right now I have a watcher process that monitors for app failures and restarts any it sees down. Their free plan is unbeatable, though. Up to 2GB RAM with 10 bound services (redis, MongoDB, PostgreSQL, etc). So, my experience has been mixed. I really, really want to love them, but unfortunately I keep running into problems.

julien421 13y ago

gg!

HeyItsJames 13y ago
wp.

conroy 13y ago

How is Flynn planning to handle longer lived services such as databases? Do I run the database separate and just use Flynn for app servers?

Titanous 13y ago
Flynn is intended to manage and containerize backing services as well. We'll have a system for specifying hosts and volumes that can be used for persistent storage. In the future we also want to add hooks for provisioning, high availability, and more.
- 1qaz2wsx3edc 13y ago
  How is orchestration handled?
  - Titanous 13y ago
    Orchestration of containers is the purpose of Flynn. We'll create detailed architectural documents in the coming weeks.
shykes 13y ago
Flynn apps are docker containers under the hood, so any docker container can be used to extend your Flynn deployment - including databases and pretty much any long-lived service you can think of. Take a look for http://index.docker.io http://index.docker.io for examples.

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rmanalan 13y ago

What's happening with Dokku since Flynn is also going to be open source? My understanding is Flynn is based on Dokku... since Jeff Lindsay is involved.

progrium 13y ago
https://github.com/progrium/dokku/issues/129 https://github.com/progrium/dokku/issues/129

zek 13y ago

I think this a very interesting way of funding an open-source project, and I'm glad it worked out. Excited to see how Flynn turns out!

ihsw 13y ago
Ubuntu Edge is also getting on the corporate sponsor train, but unfortunately I think they set the bar a bit too high. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge $80K enterprise bundle. It's a bit pricey (even though you get 100 devices), and I'm sure if they offered an $8K option for 10 devices then they'd get a lot more interest than none at all. The $8K price point is almost in splurge territory, and the benefit of having access to workshops and online support would certainly put it over the top.

victorhooi 13y ago

Whew, that's awesome =). I was watching it lately - and it seemed to be hovering around 91% for some time... Looking forward to seeing great things from the project.

mixmastamyk 13y ago

Flynn lives! (A Tron reference).

john_i 13y ago
Please don't. It hurts too much to be reminded that the show has ended :(

jaytaylor 13y ago

Shameless plug: In search of folks who'd like early access to my open-source Heroku-esque PaaS: ShipBuilder ShipBuilder is a freely available open-source project which aims to make it fast and easy to deploy arbitrary web-applications. Get total control over all aspects of your staging and production environments. More info: http://shipbuilder.io/ http://shipbuilder.io/ It uses Go, Git, LXC, and HAProxy. Just reply below with your github username, or shoot an email to jay@jaytaylor.com if you are interested in early access.

argonaut 13y ago
Have you considered merging efforts with Flynn?
- jaytaylor 13y ago
  I'm certainly open to the possibility, I want to end up with the best possible open-source PaaS system.
  - argonaut 13y ago
    Me too (not affiliated with Flynn). One of the reasons Rails gained so much mind share (IMO) over the Python ecosystem was fragmentation in Python's ecosystem.
    - shykes 13y ago
      In this case, the way to avoid fragmentation is not to merge but to standardize on the Docker APIs, just like Flynn does. Docker's job is to guarantee interop between PaaS-like components, so that you don't need to lock yourself into a single monolithic PaaS. Everything you build on Docker will benefit Flynn - and Deis, and Dokku, and Maestro, and dockermix, and custom platforms at Ebay, Uber, Cloudflare, Mailgun etc.
alexwright 13y ago
Are you doing anything clever to add and remove upstream hosts from the HAProxy instance? When I looked into it (very briefly) there was no kind of programmatic access to do that, among other things.

macarthy12 13y ago

Good news guys. I posted links to the pledge drive from a few places (HN included), hope it helped. Looking forward to the code!