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I gotta disagree with your last sentence: the absolute worst thing you can do about bullying is say that the victim deserved it. First, my bias: I'm a huge fan
by drhayes9 13y ago
I gotta disagree with your last sentence: the absolute worst thing you can do about bullying is say that the victim deserved it.
First, my bias: I'm a huge fan of FEZ, the game.
Aren't you victim blaming? He deserves all the abuse he gets because he's abusive? It's okay that he could be having a nervous breakdown because he brought it on himself?
I don't know what Fish's background is. What if he comes from an abusive household and triggers on bullying and lashes out? Now is it okay that he gets attacked a lot?
- MartinCron 13y agoI think we can safely say that Phil Fish is absolutely part of the problem without it degenerating into mere victim blaming. Of course he doesn't deserve the abuse that he gets, neither do his abuse victims.
- drhayes9 13y agoI'd be more inclined to agree with you, that Fish is simply another troll, if I'd seen any evidence of him responding to a perfectly reasonable review of FEZ with more "choke-on-my-dick" trollia. There's a difference between simply being an asshole and being an Internet troll in my mind. Most of the things I've seen him saying is in response to some pretty inflammatory stuff.
- MartinCron 13y agoI don't think he's just another troll, whatever that means. I just think his responses have been pretty reprehensible. We can all do better.
- drhayes9 13y agoSorry to stick words in your mouth. I agree, you're right, his responses are terrible and he seems pretty rude.
- kevingadd 13y agoThey're not abuse victims because they opted into it by going out of their way to harass the guy in the first place. Is that hard to understand? It shouldn't be.
- MartinCron 13y agoYou don't "opt in" to having someone tell you to kill yourself, that is not how civilization is supposed to work.
- kevingadd 13y agoIf you attack someone and they fight back you're not a "victim". Yes, they might have been wrong to strike back out at you, but you're not a "victim".
- MartinCron 13y agoI see what you're saying. I guess I'm not that hung up on the definition of the word "victim". My point is that those kinds of interactions are just horrible and that nobody deserves to be on the receiving end of such abuse. We (as geeks, video game culture people, internet culture people, humans, whatever) should be able to get past these childish escalating aggression tantrums. This isn't the bronze age.