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I should syndicate my 4chan inbox somewhere. 10 years of "FAK U FAGET" has left me with a mountain of wonderful e-mail.

by moot 13y ago

Shank 13y ago
I can only assume you have a private email that you use for normal communication - do you read the inbox of moot@4chan fairly often/if at all?
- moot 13y ago
  I read every e-mail I receive at moot@4chan.org, usually within minutes.
  - glomph 13y ago
    Do you use google mail or something else to manage your email domain?
zalzane 13y ago
I like to think that the more passionate people get over something on the internet, the saltier the stuff they tend to write about it.
- moot 13y ago
  Sexier* Fixed that for you.
mapgrep 13y ago
Then I'll try and be a little more civilized here: Along with some nice things, 4chan is also a notorious breeding ground for some of the worst and most noxious media and hateful activity (e.g. harassment campaigns) on the internet. This has continued to be the case for many years. It doesn't seem much has changed. Don't you feel any responsibility for the behavior of your users? http://dashes.com/anil/2011/07/if-your-websites-full-of-assholes-its-your-fault.html http://dashes.com/anil/2011/07/if-your-websites-full-of-assh...
- Udo 13y ago
  I think it would be a mistake to equate the worst of /b with 4chan as a whole. What would you do to control /b in this situation (short of shutting the whole site down)? Maybe providing a dedicated outlet for the destructive elements of a community is a good idea overall, kind of like hellbanning on HN if you think about it, except that hell-banned people can interact with each other and voluntarily retreat to their own forum.
  - dragontamer 13y ago
    Shut the subsite down is an effective option. Let the people know they aren't welcome at 4chan. GameFAQs had their LUE exodus, 4Chan can have their /b/ exodus. In the case of GameFAQs, the rest of the site was able to focus more on gaming and it was better as a result. On the other hand, if 4Chan wants to be home to that element of the internet, they are welcome to do so. But I think at this point, it is fair to judge 4Chan on their acceptance of /b/, much like how I judge Reddit on their handling of clopclop and jailbait. Nonetheless, companies built on top of community discussions have to face the facts, people will come, they will be assholes. Its a problem that any discussion-based company has to solve. I understand protecting "Freedom of Speech", but lines have to be drawn at some point.
    - deleted 13y ago
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      - makomk 13y ago
        There's a very large chance they'll destroy all the other boards on 4chan. Every time /b/ goes down, either deliberately or due to a technical issue, its denizens flood out to the remaining boards and turn them into cesspits until it returns.
        dragontamer 13y ago
        Ditto with the GameFAQs LUE exodus many years ago. I'm very well familiar with how things happen. Part of the solution is suffocating the community by ensuring no one new can access the site. Killing a site as big as LUE was (or as big as /b/ is today) isn't going to happen overnight. It has to happen slower with a deliberate plan.
1qaz2wsx3edc 13y ago
This could be the next greatest gift you give the internet.
stuaxo 13y ago
Can imagine some very very wrong data visualisations of this ... and sentiment analysis...
gnarbarian 13y ago
That'd be awesome, especially the photoshops. Some people really ought to grow thicker skin. I think many of these people who can't take it ought to spend a few months on 4chan as an unpopular tripfriend. Fez was one of the best games I've ever played. It's a masterpiece. But Phil Fish allows himself to be trolled and does a great job of feeding them. Only a fool expects the world to change in order to suit him. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen, or at least refrain from sticking your dick in the deep fryer.
- gnarbarian 13y ago
  finally found the correct quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -George Bernard Shaw
  - Leepic 13y ago
    Besides the "let's paste a quote that agrees with our point of view" cliché, Shaw claims that all progress depends on the unreasonable man, not that whatever unreasonable men can do is progressive. Big difference.
tomjen3 13y ago
Does it really surprise you? You run a site dedicated to some of the worst trolls on the internet. Of course they are going to troll you.

I should syndicate my 4chan inbox somewhere. 10 years of "FAK U FAGET" has left me with a mountain of wonderful e-mail.

by moot 13y ago

I should syndicate my 4chan inbox somewhere. 10 years of "FAK U FAGET" has left me with a mountain of wonderful e-mail.

Shank 13y ago

I can only assume you have a private email that you use for normal communication - do you read the inbox of moot@4chan fairly often/if at all?

moot 13y ago
I read every e-mail I receive at moot@4chan.org, usually within minutes.
- glomph 13y ago
  Do you use google mail or something else to manage your email domain?

zalzane 13y ago

I like to think that the more passionate people get over something on the internet, the saltier the stuff they tend to write about it.

moot 13y ago
Sexier* Fixed that for you.

mapgrep 13y ago

Then I'll try and be a little more civilized here: Along with some nice things, 4chan is also a notorious breeding ground for some of the worst and most noxious media and hateful activity (e.g. harassment campaigns) on the internet. This has continued to be the case for many years. It doesn't seem much has changed. Don't you feel any responsibility for the behavior of your users? http://dashes.com/anil/2011/07/if-your-websites-full-of-assholes-its-your-fault.html http://dashes.com/anil/2011/07/if-your-websites-full-of-assh...

Udo 13y ago
I think it would be a mistake to equate the worst of /b with 4chan as a whole. What would you do to control /b in this situation (short of shutting the whole site down)? Maybe providing a dedicated outlet for the destructive elements of a community is a good idea overall, kind of like hellbanning on HN if you think about it, except that hell-banned people can interact with each other and voluntarily retreat to their own forum.
- dragontamer 13y ago
  Shut the subsite down is an effective option. Let the people know they aren't welcome at 4chan. GameFAQs had their LUE exodus, 4Chan can have their /b/ exodus. In the case of GameFAQs, the rest of the site was able to focus more on gaming and it was better as a result. On the other hand, if 4Chan wants to be home to that element of the internet, they are welcome to do so. But I think at this point, it is fair to judge 4Chan on their acceptance of /b/, much like how I judge Reddit on their handling of clopclop and jailbait. Nonetheless, companies built on top of community discussions have to face the facts, people will come, they will be assholes. Its a problem that any discussion-based company has to solve. I understand protecting "Freedom of Speech", but lines have to be drawn at some point.
  - deleted 13y ago
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    - makomk 13y ago
      There's a very large chance they'll destroy all the other boards on 4chan. Every time /b/ goes down, either deliberately or due to a technical issue, its denizens flood out to the remaining boards and turn them into cesspits until it returns.
      - dragontamer 13y ago
        Ditto with the GameFAQs LUE exodus many years ago. I'm very well familiar with how things happen. Part of the solution is suffocating the community by ensuring no one new can access the site. Killing a site as big as LUE was (or as big as /b/ is today) isn't going to happen overnight. It has to happen slower with a deliberate plan.

1qaz2wsx3edc 13y ago

This could be the next greatest gift you give the internet.

stuaxo 13y ago

Can imagine some very very wrong data visualisations of this ... and sentiment analysis...

gnarbarian 13y ago

That'd be awesome, especially the photoshops. Some people really ought to grow thicker skin. I think many of these people who can't take it ought to spend a few months on 4chan as an unpopular tripfriend. Fez was one of the best games I've ever played. It's a masterpiece. But Phil Fish allows himself to be trolled and does a great job of feeding them. Only a fool expects the world to change in order to suit him. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen, or at least refrain from sticking your dick in the deep fryer.

gnarbarian 13y ago
finally found the correct quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -George Bernard Shaw
- Leepic 13y ago
  Besides the "let's paste a quote that agrees with our point of view" cliché, Shaw claims that all progress depends on the unreasonable man, not that whatever unreasonable men can do is progressive. Big difference.

tomjen3 13y ago

Does it really surprise you? You run a site dedicated to some of the worst trolls on the internet. Of course they are going to troll you.