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I fail to see how this is a defense in this context. Given the rest of the tweets, it doesn't seem that Fish was joking in any way, shape, or form.

by cube13 13y ago

kennywinker 13y ago
The Futurama line is satirical: pompous robot says obviously cruel and pompous thing. Quoting it, assuming the other party recognizes that it's a quote, keeps some of the original humour and makes it into more of a sassy put-down than a literal "you should kill yourself". For instance, if I say "nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure" I'm not ACTUALLY saying we should nuke anything. I'm actually quite against the use of nuclear weapons.
- cube13 13y ago
  Except there's no humor, implied, or otherwise, there. Just malice. And honestly, the phrase "nuke it from orbit" is a rather exaggerated phrase. Unless the speaker is Barrack Obama or Vladamir Putin, it's a pretty good assumption that they are incapable of performing such an act. However, "look at my life and go kill yourself" is much less exaggerated. Bender gets a pass when he says it because it's used in a comedic context. In real life, there is just about no point where that is a socially acceptable thing to say, except, perhaps, in a Futurama quote competition.
  - nilliams 13y ago
    >> However, "look at my life and go kill yourself" is much less exaggerated I believe Fish actually used the full quote too "compare your life to mine and then kill yourself" [1] . Also, have you seen the abusive rant that Fish was responding to? It was this GameTrailers panel clip, 1min 50 [2]. I was appalled, it was a character assassination. Beer called Fish a "fucking hipster," a "tosspot," a "wanker", a "fucking arsehole" and was dismissive of his game [2]. For some reason it's fucking hipster that gets my goat the most as that is just a pathetically lazy insult to throw at someone creative. [1] http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/27/4563738/fez-ii-abruptly-canceled-after-developer-phil-fish-explodes-in-rage http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/27/4563738/fez-ii-abruptly-ca... [2] http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/roj70m/invisible-walls-everything-and-the-kitchen-sink http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/roj70m/invisible-w...

I fail to see how this is a defense in this context. Given the rest of the tweets, it doesn't seem that Fish was joking in any way, shape, or form.

by cube13 13y ago

I fail to see how this is a defense in this context. Given the rest of the tweets, it doesn't seem that Fish was joking in any way, shape, or form.

kennywinker 13y ago

The Futurama line is satirical: pompous robot says obviously cruel and pompous thing. Quoting it, assuming the other party recognizes that it's a quote, keeps some of the original humour and makes it into more of a sassy put-down than a literal "you should kill yourself". For instance, if I say "nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure" I'm not ACTUALLY saying we should nuke anything. I'm actually quite against the use of nuclear weapons.

cube13 13y ago
Except there's no humor, implied, or otherwise, there. Just malice. And honestly, the phrase "nuke it from orbit" is a rather exaggerated phrase. Unless the speaker is Barrack Obama or Vladamir Putin, it's a pretty good assumption that they are incapable of performing such an act. However, "look at my life and go kill yourself" is much less exaggerated. Bender gets a pass when he says it because it's used in a comedic context. In real life, there is just about no point where that is a socially acceptable thing to say, except, perhaps, in a Futurama quote competition.
- nilliams 13y ago
  >> However, "look at my life and go kill yourself" is much less exaggerated I believe Fish actually used the full quote too "compare your life to mine and then kill yourself" [1] . Also, have you seen the abusive rant that Fish was responding to? It was this GameTrailers panel clip, 1min 50 [2]. I was appalled, it was a character assassination. Beer called Fish a "fucking hipster," a "tosspot," a "wanker", a "fucking arsehole" and was dismissive of his game [2]. For some reason it's fucking hipster that gets my goat the most as that is just a pathetically lazy insult to throw at someone creative. [1] http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/27/4563738/fez-ii-abruptly-canceled-after-developer-phil-fish-explodes-in-rage http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/27/4563738/fez-ii-abruptly-ca... [2] http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/roj70m/invisible-walls-everything-and-the-kitchen-sink http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/roj70m/invisible-w...