It's true that APL was originally designed as a notation tool, and maybe J fails at that, at least for beginners (which I am; only a few months in), but it cert

It's true that APL was originally designed as a notation tool, and maybe J fails at that, at least for beginners (which I am; only a few months in), but it certainly works very well for me as a language. Bonus; if my prop trading algos ever get lifted, there are only a few people who will be able to make anything of 'em. I see above you're looking at its successor, K. Maybe you will like it better, but ultimately the idea was to reduce J's character set to one-character per primitive.