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They support IE7, which I believe Bootstrap 3 has dropped. If you don't do the comparison yourself, you're at risk of losing out.

ceejayoz 13y ago
I'm at risk of losing out if I have to go through 20 pages of documentation and compare line-for-line against Bootstrap rather than the creator going "we decided not to just re-skin Bootstrap primarily for reasons A, B, and C".
- chrischen 13y ago
  I'm going to reveal a big secret. I actually managed to find out the tidbit about IE 7 without reading it line by line. Their primary job is not marketing. Their primary job is to build the framework. Why do you think things like Y Combinator exists? They do some work others aren't willing to and others lose out because of it. It's to the developer's benefit to tell you why his product is good, but it's not their duty. These guys worked on and released a free product for you. You can choose to use it if you want but they don't owe you anything or an explanation of why it's better than Bootstrap.
  - ceejayoz 13y ago
    Nowhere did I imply they had a duty to do so - just that it'd be to their benefit, because the people considering such a framework have dozens to choose from that all look alike. They presumably put it out there because they'd like people to use it.
  - lamnk 13y ago
    The immediate question that popped up when I first see their project's homepage is "How is it different from Bootstrap? Why should I use it?" I looked around and they don't offer an explanation, so I left and continue to use what I'm using. The developers put reasonable efforts in building the website, introducing the project so that people will adopt it, so I think an article comparing their project with Bootstrap definitely helps with adoption.
windsurfer 13y ago
IE7 was last updated over 3 years ago and doesn't even pass Acid2. Only 1.5% of internet users use IE7, and most of those are probably stuck there due to corporate governance rather than choice.
- ditados 13y ago
  Yeah, well, that's a first world problem, clearly. That 1.5% isn't true for their target market.
- rcarmo 13y ago
  Like the other guy said, IE7 isn't that rare in Portugal. it's a sensible baseline for SAPO, which, incidentally, runs the biggest web portal in PT (I work there). And yes, corporate governance regarding browsers does weigh in heavily in mass-market sites here, so we have to make sure the layouts don't break - Ink enables delivering a predictable, working layout that degrades gracefully down to IE7 for that reason.
  - chrischen 13y ago
    It's also not rare in China either. In fact, IE 6 isn't even rare in China.

ceejayoz 13y ago

I'm at risk of losing out if I have to go through 20 pages of documentation and compare line-for-line against Bootstrap rather than the creator going "we decided not to just re-skin Bootstrap primarily for reasons A, B, and C".

chrischen 13y ago
I'm going to reveal a big secret. I actually managed to find out the tidbit about IE 7 without reading it line by line. Their primary job is not marketing. Their primary job is to build the framework. Why do you think things like Y Combinator exists? They do some work others aren't willing to and others lose out because of it. It's to the developer's benefit to tell you why his product is good, but it's not their duty. These guys worked on and released a free product for you. You can choose to use it if you want but they don't owe you anything or an explanation of why it's better than Bootstrap.
- ceejayoz 13y ago
  Nowhere did I imply they had a duty to do so - just that it'd be to their benefit, because the people considering such a framework have dozens to choose from that all look alike. They presumably put it out there because they'd like people to use it.
- lamnk 13y ago
  The immediate question that popped up when I first see their project's homepage is "How is it different from Bootstrap? Why should I use it?" I looked around and they don't offer an explanation, so I left and continue to use what I'm using. The developers put reasonable efforts in building the website, introducing the project so that people will adopt it, so I think an article comparing their project with Bootstrap definitely helps with adoption.

windsurfer 13y ago

IE7 was last updated over 3 years ago and doesn't even pass Acid2. Only 1.5% of internet users use IE7, and most of those are probably stuck there due to corporate governance rather than choice.

ditados 13y ago
Yeah, well, that's a first world problem, clearly. That 1.5% isn't true for their target market.
rcarmo 13y ago
Like the other guy said, IE7 isn't that rare in Portugal. it's a sensible baseline for SAPO, which, incidentally, runs the biggest web portal in PT (I work there). And yes, corporate governance regarding browsers does weigh in heavily in mass-market sites here, so we have to make sure the layouts don't break - Ink enables delivering a predictable, working layout that degrades gracefully down to IE7 for that reason.
- chrischen 13y ago
  It's also not rare in China either. In fact, IE 6 isn't even rare in China.