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When did we all become so codependent? I can grow an orange if I want to. As far as Im concerned, those folks who make their living growing oranges are respons

When did we all become so codependent? I can grow an orange if I want to. As far as Im concerned, those folks who make their living growing oranges are responsible for their own outcomes. I dont need oranges from them. And maybe I dont even want them at all. If the growers have become so incompetent as to not be able to grow them I wont miss them. (or the oranges).

lotu 13y ago
What are you trying to say? Maybe you can grow an orange but I can't, I live in an apartment in New York even if I had access to the ground and room to grow an orange tree the climate is wrong. You might be able to grow your own oranges but can you make your own clothes, build your own furniture, manufacture your own car, fab your own chips, or drill your own oil? We have been codependent since whenever your ancestor stopped being subsistence farmers. This could be centuries ago if you come from an old money family, or weeks ago if you a recent immigrant from the poor rural China or India. Next it sounds like the growers are actively working on fixing the problem of a plague killing their oranges. Do you think they should be working faster or just that their isn't a problem in the first place? In the end I don't really understand your comment.
- blackprawn 13y ago
  Im sorry you cant grow an orange, and Im not sure why you need one. Also Im saying Im not dependent in any way on citrus farms. If they fail, its their own fault, and someone, in fact anyone could do better. I guess when I think about it, a corporate citrus farm isnt much more than a hedge fund to me. Their crops dying are just a stock going down. "Oh the oranges are dying!" They will be replaced. Oranges will be here long after we are gone.
  - blackprawn 13y ago
    These downvotes are AWESOME - (hellban me I can change my IP in 30 seconds) SO, the rules of VC and SV dont apply to oranges, I assume my posts were downvoted because oranges are a "precious" resource, even though no other country in the world has problems growing them, so Im being downvoted (and HOPEFULLY hellbanned) for calling out a corrupt, piece of shit US food cartel that is committing ritual suicide in its own crops. Oh "boo fucking hoo". Fact: No one needs OJ. Fact: The idiots that have pissed on their own crops are complaining about the fact they cant do their jobs. FACT: no one in silicon valley would have the fucking balls to complain when they cant run their own business but they feel sorry for pussy farmers who CANT RUN THEIR BUSINESS. In fact if these farmers were SV startups they would be taken out and shot by their own parents and pushed into the bay in front of hungry sharks.
    - ars 13y ago
      You are being downvoted for being an idiot. What you write makes no sense at all. The US is one of the last countries to be affected. The entire worlds production of oranges is falling. And there is absolutely NOTHING the growers can do about it. > and HOPEFULLY hellbanned If you are an idiot only about oranges then fine (everyone has their sore spot). But if you are an idiot for other things too then don't come back.
    - chiph 13y ago
      Fact: No one needs OJ Think of this as a practice session. What happens if a blight strikes one of the world's staples? Like rice, or corn? If that happens, you're talking starvation on a global scale, not just disrupting someone's breakfast routine. So acquiring the skills to defend/defeat something like this will be very important to the race.
quanticle 13y ago
And why is the spread of a disease due to the "incompetence" of the growers? If you get the cold, do you say, "I was incompetent at washing my hands?"
jonknee 13y ago
Way to miss the point of the article, it's about the future of oranges not the future of any orange grower. If you live in one of the few places in the world than can grow an orange you will soon find the very same disease affecting your precious personal orange supply.

lotu 13y ago

What are you trying to say? Maybe you can grow an orange but I can't, I live in an apartment in New York even if I had access to the ground and room to grow an orange tree the climate is wrong. You might be able to grow your own oranges but can you make your own clothes, build your own furniture, manufacture your own car, fab your own chips, or drill your own oil? We have been codependent since whenever your ancestor stopped being subsistence farmers. This could be centuries ago if you come from an old money family, or weeks ago if you a recent immigrant from the poor rural China or India. Next it sounds like the growers are actively working on fixing the problem of a plague killing their oranges. Do you think they should be working faster or just that their isn't a problem in the first place? In the end I don't really understand your comment.

blackprawn 13y ago
Im sorry you cant grow an orange, and Im not sure why you need one. Also Im saying Im not dependent in any way on citrus farms. If they fail, its their own fault, and someone, in fact anyone could do better. I guess when I think about it, a corporate citrus farm isnt much more than a hedge fund to me. Their crops dying are just a stock going down. "Oh the oranges are dying!" They will be replaced. Oranges will be here long after we are gone.
- blackprawn 13y ago
  These downvotes are AWESOME - (hellban me I can change my IP in 30 seconds) SO, the rules of VC and SV dont apply to oranges, I assume my posts were downvoted because oranges are a "precious" resource, even though no other country in the world has problems growing them, so Im being downvoted (and HOPEFULLY hellbanned) for calling out a corrupt, piece of shit US food cartel that is committing ritual suicide in its own crops. Oh "boo fucking hoo". Fact: No one needs OJ. Fact: The idiots that have pissed on their own crops are complaining about the fact they cant do their jobs. FACT: no one in silicon valley would have the fucking balls to complain when they cant run their own business but they feel sorry for pussy farmers who CANT RUN THEIR BUSINESS. In fact if these farmers were SV startups they would be taken out and shot by their own parents and pushed into the bay in front of hungry sharks.
  - ars 13y ago
    You are being downvoted for being an idiot. What you write makes no sense at all. The US is one of the last countries to be affected. The entire worlds production of oranges is falling. And there is absolutely NOTHING the growers can do about it. > and HOPEFULLY hellbanned If you are an idiot only about oranges then fine (everyone has their sore spot). But if you are an idiot for other things too then don't come back.
  - chiph 13y ago
    Fact: No one needs OJ Think of this as a practice session. What happens if a blight strikes one of the world's staples? Like rice, or corn? If that happens, you're talking starvation on a global scale, not just disrupting someone's breakfast routine. So acquiring the skills to defend/defeat something like this will be very important to the race.

quanticle 13y ago

And why is the spread of a disease due to the "incompetence" of the growers? If you get the cold, do you say, "I was incompetent at washing my hands?"

jonknee 13y ago

Way to miss the point of the article, it's about the future of oranges not the future of any orange grower. If you live in one of the few places in the world than can grow an orange you will soon find the very same disease affecting your precious personal orange supply.