Right. On the PC I started off with STSC. I had a brief exposure to APL on mainframes but the PC version was far more capable and useful. I liked some of the

Right. On the PC I started off with STSC. I had a brief exposure to APL on mainframes but the PC version was far more capable and useful. I liked some of the direction taken by IBM with APL2 (nested arrays and other primitives) while keeping to the concept of notation being just as powerful as abstraction. Also, our 10K LOC workspaces is potentially equivalent to hundreds of thousands of lines of code in something like C. Another way to put it is that a single programmer can do the job of five or ten programmers in another language. And do it faster.