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It's not really free, though. It's just paid by someone else.
by tsotha 13y ago
It's not really free, though. It's just paid by someone else.
- tobylane 13y agoThe US is switching over to 'not' paying for healthcare, at the point of sale at least. The next thing to be changed like that would probably be education.
- GuiA 13y agoIt's free for the students; that's one of the points of the article, that financial debt can be an obstacle to personal liberties.
- tsotha 13y agoHigh taxes are an obstacle to personal liberties, too.
- Crake 13y agoI know you probably don't agree with this, but to many people (including myself), not having access to health care or qualified physicians would be considered a pretty big obstacle to personal liberty as well. (You can't do anything if you're dead, after all.)
- tsotha 13y agoThe amount doctors get paid isn't what drives medical costs in the US.
- therobot24 13y agoso highly qualified individuals shouldn't be paid well?
- tsotha 13y agoI don't know where you got that from anything I wrote.
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- johnchristopher 13y agoSo are children and stepmothers. Your point ? > High taxes are an obstacle to personal liberties, too. No. Taxes are spread out among the population. Financial debt is burdening only one individual. In Europe, in France and Belgium, we like to think solidarity is a good thing.
- Crake 13y agoThat's what's wrong with a lot of Americans, IMO. It's every man for himself, screw your neighbors. If something bad happens to someone else, they deserved it for reason X. (X being: they didn't work "hard enough," they were "lazy," etc when the person in question is often less lazy and harder working than the person complaining about them) I actually had a classmate tell me the other day that me being able to get the medications I need to stay alive (because of the ACA) was going to drive the country bankrupt and (direct quote here) "destroy America." In my experience, my countrymen do not care for others very much--only themselves.
- tsotha 13y ago>Taxes are spread out among the population. Financial debt is burdening only one individual. Well, that's true, but it doesn't change the truth of what I said. The people who never go to college have less money to spend on themselves because they're subsidizing people who will go on to make a lot of money.
- DrJokepu 13y agoMeh. You are trivialising something really complicated and you know that.
- tsotha 13y agoNo, actually it's not that complicated.
- _delirium 13y agoEuropean taxes are higher for some people, but I'm not sure the average middle-class or upper-middle-class American comes out ahead, even purely monetarily. In return for your taxes, many countries cover both healthcare and higher education, which Americans have to buy separately. If you add up [federal tax + state tax + payroll tax + student-loan payments + health insurance premiums], a Californian making $80k might take home only about $40k, while a Dane making $80k would take home about $50k.
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- derleth 13y agoTheir healthcare overall costs less than US health care, though. So, not free, but it does, in fact, cost less.
- rrreese 13y agoWhy abuse the language? Almost every thing that is free is paid by some one else. Free means free to the person receiving the good/service. I appreciate English may not be your first language, but if you want to point out the costs, there are better ways then redefining the word free.
- robmil 13y agoSuch as doctors who are further on in their careers — it's actually rather a nice system, where those who have been lucky enough to be successful can help out those who need it, and all benefit.
- gte910h 13y agoThe word free means nothing if you insist on this definition.