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I recently switched from an iPhone 5 (after 3 years on an iPhone) to a Nexus 4 and I can't say I've had same experience with lagging. Android has improved to th

I recently switched from an iPhone 5 (after 3 years on an iPhone) to a Nexus 4 and I can't say I've had same experience with lagging. Android has improved to the point where I haven't seen any lag at all. Most functions, from scrolling and animations to simple things like changing the focus from a text box on the web page to the URL bar of the browser, had noticeable lag. So I just tried this now and saw no lag. It's not that I don't believe you, but I'm surprised that the Nexus 4 can demonstrate good UI response but the S4 can't (even with all the junk that Samsung puts on top of Android) I don't see lag as an issue but I agree that there are lots of UI inconsistencies still in Android that make it not as easy to use as an iPhone. On the other hand - good god is inter-app sharing/integration so useful and efficient. Apple's kinda dropping the ball on that one. In my experience, people are drawn to Android don't care much about user experience and instead want larger screens and tons of features Or maybe they, you know, what to actually make their phone do stuff for them beyond what the manufacturer thought they may require. There's a lot of good stuff on both sides. Dismissing one side condescendingly like that doesn't move the discussion forward.

kyzyl 13y ago
Yeah, your point of view pretty much sums up how I always put it. 1. Competition is good! Don't act like there should be only one good option, or you might end up with just that. 2. I really don't like apple as a company, but the iphone seems to be pretty good. It's form factor is a bit better than my S3, and it's noticeably smoother. On the other hand, I drag folders of music onto my S3 and it just fucking plays them. I don't have to sync anything with my computer (and I don't), I get detailed metrics on what my apps are doing (which I find very useful) and I can tear out my default launcher and put something better in (which I have done). Oh and I can change the battery by popping the back off! 3. Actually good, useful smart phones are still a pretty damn new thing. Yeah technically they've been around for a while, but anybody who used a Palm Treo knows what I'm talking about. That means that all these "iphone is so much faster!" or "S4's battery life sucks!" is just related to the fact that we haven't figured it out yet. It takes time to really polish complicated tech.
cageface 13y ago
Likewise. My Nexus 4 and iPhone 5 are pretty much indistinguishable in terms of UI responsiveness. Samsung devices are notorious for lag, even with the ridiculously powerful hardware in the S4. As happy as I am to see Android thriving I'd prefer to see somebody other than Samsung on top.
- rustynails77 13y ago
  I have used Android for about 6 months and iPhone for about 3 years. I find using IOS like being in hand-cuffs. Let me give an example. For about 6 months, there was an audio bug in IOS (that now seems to be fixed). If I plugged in my iPhone to a car charger/music player, and removed it while a song was playing, the audio would switch off. Now Apple, being a hip company, had about 6 volume settings, of which you can't see the settings for most of these volume settings. The volumes I know of are :- 1) the volume level through the headphones 2) the volume through the speaker, when the audio is switched on by a physical switch 3) the volume through the speaker, when the audio is switched off by a physical switch 4) the volume through the headphones when the phone is plugged in through a 30 pin connector 5) an application specific volume (eg. playing a movie through a web browser - which does NOT use volumes 1-5) 6) ring-tone volume Now, for some reason, Apple got the volumes mixed up so that it was IMPOSSIBLE to get any sound (except 6.) without plugging in a 30 pin connector and increasing the volume. It took me MONTHS to work this out. All of the Apple "experts" I knew swore that this was not possible until I showed them. Even Apple said there was no bug and that it was faulty hardware, which I knew it wasn't. The problem is that I keep on having similar issues with IOS. It's just "too clever" for its own good. Settings that you need are just not there (eg. accessing WIFI settings with a single click or slide). There was also the time that iTunes REFUSED to copy music to my iPhone. If I used a 3rd party tool, songs would be copied and could play, but as soon as I used iTunes, it knew the new songs were "corrupted", and put the broken versions of the music on my phone. Thankfully, this bug only lasted a week. I also find my iPhone 4s laggy. As an example, if I load a web page in the background, and try to scroll the current web page, the phone locks up for about 1000 milliseconds (ie. a VERY long time). It really infuriates me. As for the Android lag, I am not sure what people are referring to. the Google hardware has not been a problem that I have seen - ever. I think the best summary I can think of is that IOS is for people that don't want choice (eg. no FLAC, no 1080p MKV, no volume settings, you can't copy music files directly - you need iTunes, etc). Android has more that you need to know about, but at least you CAN find it if you want to. I have a love/hate with IOS. But, when IOS pisses me off, it REALLY pisses me off. I can't say the same for Android. You can see that I like choice. I also agree with others that I'd rather see Apple do well than Samsung. Samsung have a highly unethical history. If it weren't for Apple, Samsung would still be churning out rubbish handsets.

kyzyl 13y ago

Yeah, your point of view pretty much sums up how I always put it. 1. Competition is good! Don't act like there should be only one good option, or you might end up with just that. 2. I really don't like apple as a company, but the iphone seems to be pretty good. It's form factor is a bit better than my S3, and it's noticeably smoother. On the other hand, I drag folders of music onto my S3 and it just fucking plays them. I don't have to sync anything with my computer (and I don't), I get detailed metrics on what my apps are doing (which I find very useful) and I can tear out my default launcher and put something better in (which I have done). Oh and I can change the battery by popping the back off! 3. Actually good, useful smart phones are still a pretty damn new thing. Yeah technically they've been around for a while, but anybody who used a Palm Treo knows what I'm talking about. That means that all these "iphone is so much faster!" or "S4's battery life sucks!" is just related to the fact that we haven't figured it out yet. It takes time to really polish complicated tech.

cageface 13y ago

Likewise. My Nexus 4 and iPhone 5 are pretty much indistinguishable in terms of UI responsiveness. Samsung devices are notorious for lag, even with the ridiculously powerful hardware in the S4. As happy as I am to see Android thriving I'd prefer to see somebody other than Samsung on top.

rustynails77 13y ago
I have used Android for about 6 months and iPhone for about 3 years. I find using IOS like being in hand-cuffs. Let me give an example. For about 6 months, there was an audio bug in IOS (that now seems to be fixed). If I plugged in my iPhone to a car charger/music player, and removed it while a song was playing, the audio would switch off. Now Apple, being a hip company, had about 6 volume settings, of which you can't see the settings for most of these volume settings. The volumes I know of are :- 1) the volume level through the headphones 2) the volume through the speaker, when the audio is switched on by a physical switch 3) the volume through the speaker, when the audio is switched off by a physical switch 4) the volume through the headphones when the phone is plugged in through a 30 pin connector 5) an application specific volume (eg. playing a movie through a web browser - which does NOT use volumes 1-5) 6) ring-tone volume Now, for some reason, Apple got the volumes mixed up so that it was IMPOSSIBLE to get any sound (except 6.) without plugging in a 30 pin connector and increasing the volume. It took me MONTHS to work this out. All of the Apple "experts" I knew swore that this was not possible until I showed them. Even Apple said there was no bug and that it was faulty hardware, which I knew it wasn't. The problem is that I keep on having similar issues with IOS. It's just "too clever" for its own good. Settings that you need are just not there (eg. accessing WIFI settings with a single click or slide). There was also the time that iTunes REFUSED to copy music to my iPhone. If I used a 3rd party tool, songs would be copied and could play, but as soon as I used iTunes, it knew the new songs were "corrupted", and put the broken versions of the music on my phone. Thankfully, this bug only lasted a week. I also find my iPhone 4s laggy. As an example, if I load a web page in the background, and try to scroll the current web page, the phone locks up for about 1000 milliseconds (ie. a VERY long time). It really infuriates me. As for the Android lag, I am not sure what people are referring to. the Google hardware has not been a problem that I have seen - ever. I think the best summary I can think of is that IOS is for people that don't want choice (eg. no FLAC, no 1080p MKV, no volume settings, you can't copy music files directly - you need iTunes, etc). Android has more that you need to know about, but at least you CAN find it if you want to. I have a love/hate with IOS. But, when IOS pisses me off, it REALLY pisses me off. I can't say the same for Android. You can see that I like choice. I also agree with others that I'd rather see Apple do well than Samsung. Samsung have a highly unethical history. If it weren't for Apple, Samsung would still be churning out rubbish handsets.