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Apple is still better positioned. They have better control and less fragmentation. Samsung does not control the complete stack. They have to rely on Google for

Apple is still better positioned. They have better control and less fragmentation. Samsung does not control the complete stack. They have to rely on Google for the OS. They are forced to comply with Google's licensing agreement. Samsung is really trying hard to find an alternative by pursuing Bada, Tizen, etc. Samsung was really clever at creating TouchWiz - an overlay on top of the traditional Android. Users will get use to this interface and Samsung can eventually swap out the stack underneath it (already attempted with Tizen). Google is a fool for letting Samsung get too powerful - to the point where Samsung can dictate terms and at the expense of Google's other partners. It's clear Google knows Samsung is a problem because most of the Nexus devices are now made by LG, Asus. However, LG also owns WebOS. Android is proven and the hardware has matured, Google should start producing it's own hardware as its partners are looking at alternatives.

myko 13y ago
> Users will get use to this interface and Samsung can eventually swap out the stack underneath it (already attempted with Tizen). This only works if Samsung allows the user to download/install their purchased apps from earlier phones though. As well as Google Music and other services the user might expect. > Google is a fool for letting Samsung get too powerful - to the point where Samsung can dictate terms and at the expense of Google's other partners. When did this happen? Samsung is a huge partner of Android. They make 1 of 3 current Nexus devices and made the previous 2 Nexus phones (more than any other manufacturer). This is a completely unrelated thing. Also, Samsung is one of the companies with a Google Experience version of their latest flagship (the S4) available on Google Play. > Google should start producing it's own hardware as its partners are looking at alternatives. Does Motorola count? The first few Google developed Motorola phones were just announced.
- velodrome 13y ago
  > This only works if Samsung allows the user to download/install their purchased apps from earlier phones though. As well as Google Music and other services the user might expect. This is true. This is one of the many hurdles they need to overcome to switch to another platform. > When did this happen? Samsung is a huge partner of Android. They make 1 of 3 current Nexus devices and made the previous 2 Nexus phones (more than any other manufacturer). This is a completely unrelated thing. It's speculation really. The previous Nexus products were all made by Samsung. Why did Google suddenly start switching to other manufacturers? If Samsung made the best devices, why change? If your company commands the most profits and market share of a platform - do you not want to use this as leverage to some degree? Better bargaining power gives you a competitive advantage over other players (LG, Asus, HTC, etc). > Does Motorola count? The first few Google developed Motorola phones were just announced. It sure does. They need to speed things along though.

myko 13y ago

> Users will get use to this interface and Samsung can eventually swap out the stack underneath it (already attempted with Tizen). This only works if Samsung allows the user to download/install their purchased apps from earlier phones though. As well as Google Music and other services the user might expect. > Google is a fool for letting Samsung get too powerful - to the point where Samsung can dictate terms and at the expense of Google's other partners. When did this happen? Samsung is a huge partner of Android. They make 1 of 3 current Nexus devices and made the previous 2 Nexus phones (more than any other manufacturer). This is a completely unrelated thing. Also, Samsung is one of the companies with a Google Experience version of their latest flagship (the S4) available on Google Play. > Google should start producing it's own hardware as its partners are looking at alternatives. Does Motorola count? The first few Google developed Motorola phones were just announced.

velodrome 13y ago
> This only works if Samsung allows the user to download/install their purchased apps from earlier phones though. As well as Google Music and other services the user might expect. This is true. This is one of the many hurdles they need to overcome to switch to another platform. > When did this happen? Samsung is a huge partner of Android. They make 1 of 3 current Nexus devices and made the previous 2 Nexus phones (more than any other manufacturer). This is a completely unrelated thing. It's speculation really. The previous Nexus products were all made by Samsung. Why did Google suddenly start switching to other manufacturers? If Samsung made the best devices, why change? If your company commands the most profits and market share of a platform - do you not want to use this as leverage to some degree? Better bargaining power gives you a competitive advantage over other players (LG, Asus, HTC, etc). > Does Motorola count? The first few Google developed Motorola phones were just announced. It sure does. They need to speed things along though.