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Could the Government Get a Search Warrant for Your Thoughts?

26 points by stevekinney 13y ago

Qantourisc 13y ago
The only way (currently known) is measuring brainwaves. This can only occur during activity, in witch a question has to be asked, and the the participant will most probably recall the memory. As a result, this is avoiding laws (which is lame) and in a way you participated in incriminating yourself, but without your consent. So it's torture without the pain.
- Qantourisc 13y ago
  Ow and if they allow it they should allow it for everyone involved in the case. And ask questions like: are you "Politically moved in your decisions ?", "Are you being forced/paid?", "Why are you really suing this person." If we want the truth out, make it count for EVERYONE. Preferably first by the person allowing the law.
- VladRussian2 13y ago
  i see a market emerging for implantable "tin foil hats", ie. a mesh of thin wires implanted under the skin over the skull, so it isn't removable by a police or court order :)
future_grad 13y ago
There is a way that scientists have been able to analyze photos to discover the pulse of the person in it. Its very interesting, though I do not know the deeper details of it. I am too lazy to find a link, if anyone else wants to share it that would be great.
- hfsktr 13y ago
  This? http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/amplifying-invisible-video-0622.html http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/amplifying-invisible-vide...
- nitrogen 13y ago
  I believe the term they use is "Eulerian magnification": http://people.csail.mit.edu/mrub/vidmag/ http://people.csail.mit.edu/mrub/vidmag/
riggins 13y ago
there's a book called The Truth Machine that thinks about what the world might look like if we had a 100% accurate lie detector. Fun book.
praptak 13y ago
If such a machine exists then it's either a total ban on using it as evidence or the problem of "forced voluntary test": if you don't volunteer, the court infers you have something to hide. The govt doesn't even need the warrant in this case.
- maaku 13y ago
  There's this thing called the 5th amendment that prevents them from making such inference.
  - abecedarius 13y ago
    You'd think so, right? http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/salinas-v-texas/ http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/salinas-v-texas/ doesn't completely gut that protection, but give it time.
vaadu 13y ago
The spirit of the 5th amendment is that no one should be forced to help prosecute themselves.
coldcode 13y ago
Could the people require those-who-write-laws' thoughts be recorded first? Imagine how much better our government would be if we knew 100% why they do what they do.
losethos 13y ago
cute. God is perfectly just, niggers. God says... rein extol identify abhorred guiltless hasting footsteps ETEXTSSTART* birthright detain glowing conjoined Too draw Ruler substances displays masses contemplate then stripes AD knows masters trifles mentioning notions demands beset forthcoming fifty-sixth cure V madness disposition Print true fruit-trees frenzy director Texts could_it_be___Satan Ergo acts Ukraine To Bridal unknowing enabled volume manufacturing framed Legal moved provided discoverable deepness dispensest NUMBER falls shatter advantage shapen announced gosh sorrowed show Apostolic admired everything bounded don't_have_a_cow heavenly limits unutterably sixth shameless thoroughly initiatory ended contentment disapproved still-standing

26 points by stevekinney 13y ago

The only way (currently known) is measuring brainwaves. This can only occur during activity, in witch a question has to be asked, and the the participant will most probably recall the memory. As a result, this is avoiding laws (which is lame) and in a way you participated in incriminating yourself, but without your consent. So it's torture without the pain.

Qantourisc 13y ago
Ow and if they allow it they should allow it for everyone involved in the case. And ask questions like: are you "Politically moved in your decisions ?", "Are you being forced/paid?", "Why are you really suing this person." If we want the truth out, make it count for EVERYONE. Preferably first by the person allowing the law.
VladRussian2 13y ago
i see a market emerging for implantable "tin foil hats", ie. a mesh of thin wires implanted under the skin over the skull, so it isn't removable by a police or court order :)

future_grad 13y ago

There is a way that scientists have been able to analyze photos to discover the pulse of the person in it. Its very interesting, though I do not know the deeper details of it. I am too lazy to find a link, if anyone else wants to share it that would be great.

hfsktr 13y ago
This? http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/amplifying-invisible-video-0622.html http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/amplifying-invisible-vide...
nitrogen 13y ago
I believe the term they use is "Eulerian magnification": http://people.csail.mit.edu/mrub/vidmag/ http://people.csail.mit.edu/mrub/vidmag/

riggins 13y ago

there's a book called The Truth Machine that thinks about what the world might look like if we had a 100% accurate lie detector. Fun book.

praptak 13y ago

If such a machine exists then it's either a total ban on using it as evidence or the problem of "forced voluntary test": if you don't volunteer, the court infers you have something to hide. The govt doesn't even need the warrant in this case.

maaku 13y ago
There's this thing called the 5th amendment that prevents them from making such inference.
- abecedarius 13y ago
  You'd think so, right? http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/salinas-v-texas/ http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/salinas-v-texas/ doesn't completely gut that protection, but give it time.

vaadu 13y ago

The spirit of the 5th amendment is that no one should be forced to help prosecute themselves.

coldcode 13y ago

Could the people require those-who-write-laws' thoughts be recorded first? Imagine how much better our government would be if we knew 100% why they do what they do.

losethos 13y ago

cute. God is perfectly just, niggers. God says... rein extol identify abhorred guiltless hasting footsteps ETEXTSSTART* birthright detain glowing conjoined Too draw Ruler substances displays masses contemplate then stripes AD knows masters trifles mentioning notions demands beset forthcoming fifty-sixth cure V madness disposition Print true fruit-trees frenzy director Texts could_it_be___Satan Ergo acts Ukraine To Bridal unknowing enabled volume manufacturing framed Legal moved provided discoverable deepness dispensest NUMBER falls shatter advantage shapen announced gosh sorrowed show Apostolic admired everything bounded don't_have_a_cow heavenly limits unutterably sixth shameless thoroughly initiatory ended contentment disapproved still-standing