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"when illegal behavior enabled by the product so vastly outweighs the legal activity, we should, as a society, recognize the damage it is doing and simply stop

"when illegal behavior enabled by the product so vastly outweighs the legal activity, we should, as a society, recognize the damage it is doing and simply stop using it -- by choice -- not law, but merely an ethical decision about how to create a better world for producers and consumers of intellectual property, including the IP you may one day create and many already have." So, I should stop downloading the latest version of my favorite Linux distro via BitTorrent as "an ethical decision about how to create a better world for producers and consumers of intellectual property, including the IP you may one day create and many already have"? Outrage, justified or not, does not make illogical arguments any more valid.

pj 17y ago
I clearly said, "This is the problem with BitTorrent and this is why we should simply stop using it to steal." So you argue against what I said by using an example of something that is not stealing -- even after I acknowledge legal things can be done with BitTorrent. That is called "straw man." Instead of addressing my points, you invent some other point to support your case. And then you call me illogical. You and everyone here knows I'm right. Doesn't matter how much karma I lose. The fact that I'm losing karma only proves my case. The BitTorrent community is irrational.
- Hexstream 17y ago
  At the risk of contributing to noise: You clearly said... exactly what I quoted. And then much later, at the very end, clearly said... what you just quoted. It's not my problem if you can't stick to a consistent viewpoint throughout a post. "Instead of addressing my points, you invent some other point to support your case." So when I quote exactly what someone says I "invent" points? "You and everyone here knows I'm right." I'll have none of that bullshit. "The fact that I'm losing karma only proves my case." And then you call me illogical.

pj 17y ago

I clearly said, "This is the problem with BitTorrent and this is why we should simply stop using it to steal." So you argue against what I said by using an example of something that is not stealing -- even after I acknowledge legal things can be done with BitTorrent. That is called "straw man." Instead of addressing my points, you invent some other point to support your case. And then you call me illogical. You and everyone here knows I'm right. Doesn't matter how much karma I lose. The fact that I'm losing karma only proves my case. The BitTorrent community is irrational.

Hexstream 17y ago
At the risk of contributing to noise: You clearly said... exactly what I quoted. And then much later, at the very end, clearly said... what you just quoted. It's not my problem if you can't stick to a consistent viewpoint throughout a post. "Instead of addressing my points, you invent some other point to support your case." So when I quote exactly what someone says I "invent" points? "You and everyone here knows I'm right." I'll have none of that bullshit. "The fact that I'm losing karma only proves my case." And then you call me illogical.