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Here in Jamaica I would say most people believe the Bible to be God's word. There is not much of an evolutions vs creation controversy here as it is in the US.

by oz 17y ago

Here in Jamaica I would say most people believe the Bible to be God's word. There is not much of an evolutions vs creation controversy here as it is in the US. Outspoken atheists are a minority. Most of the population live like like pagans, but if asked, many claim to believe in 'The Father.' Some don't want any 'white god.' As a former Christian (I left Christianity in early February), I can understand Dawkins' frustration. I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but when Obama got elected, I thought he was the 'false prophet' of the book of Revelations, who would set the stage for the Antichrist. Ain't that some shit...

nop 17y ago
I'm literally amazed that you have managed to get away from those thought, I didn't think people that held such extreme views could be convinced. Congratulations, I'm happy for you.
- oz 17y ago
  Thanks, I'm even happier for myself! I'm only 22, so I have my whole life ahead of me. I feel badly for the former ministers, theologians and missionaries etc. who, after dedicating 30 or 40 years to religion realize the irrationality. There are many more who've 'deconverted.': www.de-conversion.com www.unreasonablefaith.com www.debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com All of those are run by former Christians. In fact, Nathan Phelps, the son of Fred Phelps (of GOD HATES FAGS fame) recently gave his account of what it was like growing up. Moving stuff.
Chocobean 17y ago
why throw out the baby with the bathwater? If you've left a faith (any faith) in a logical fashion, good. If you're leaving a cult to avoid having delusions, it's good too, but consider that many Christians live okay lives not worried about the Antichrist apocalypse.
- oz 17y ago
  True, but I think it's fair to say that most do. At least those that take their faith seriously. After all, Christ did tell us to look out for the signs of the end. And throughout history, Christians have have always tried to ascertain the identity of the Antichrist. Some thought it was Nero, some thought it was Antiochus Epiphanes, Napoleon, Hitler, Mussolini, Obama... Some groups, however, such as the Seventh-Day Adventists, believe that the Roman Catholic church, as an institution, is the Antichrist. This was also the position of the Reformers such as Martin Luther and John Calvin.

by oz 17y ago

nop 17y ago

I'm literally amazed that you have managed to get away from those thought, I didn't think people that held such extreme views could be convinced. Congratulations, I'm happy for you.

oz 17y ago
Thanks, I'm even happier for myself! I'm only 22, so I have my whole life ahead of me. I feel badly for the former ministers, theologians and missionaries etc. who, after dedicating 30 or 40 years to religion realize the irrationality. There are many more who've 'deconverted.': www.de-conversion.com www.unreasonablefaith.com www.debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com All of those are run by former Christians. In fact, Nathan Phelps, the son of Fred Phelps (of GOD HATES FAGS fame) recently gave his account of what it was like growing up. Moving stuff.

Chocobean 17y ago

why throw out the baby with the bathwater? If you've left a faith (any faith) in a logical fashion, good. If you're leaving a cult to avoid having delusions, it's good too, but consider that many Christians live okay lives not worried about the Antichrist apocalypse.

oz 17y ago
True, but I think it's fair to say that most do. At least those that take their faith seriously. After all, Christ did tell us to look out for the signs of the end. And throughout history, Christians have have always tried to ascertain the identity of the Antichrist. Some thought it was Nero, some thought it was Antiochus Epiphanes, Napoleon, Hitler, Mussolini, Obama... Some groups, however, such as the Seventh-Day Adventists, believe that the Roman Catholic church, as an institution, is the Antichrist. This was also the position of the Reformers such as Martin Luther and John Calvin.