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Oh, it's worse than that. Every house which uses Fibre to the Cabinet (FTTC) has to have Huawei equipment installed on the premises. http://huaweihg612hacking.
by edent 13y ago
Oh, it's worse than that. Every house which uses Fibre to the Cabinet (FTTC) has to have Huawei equipment installed on the premises.
http://huaweihg612hacking.wordpress.com/about/ http://huaweihg612hacking.wordpress.com/about/
BT own the monopoly on the copper infrastructure and they are the only company providing high speed ADSL. If you want 80Mbps broadband, you have no choice but to use the Huawei modem.
The device is reasonably hackable (and, in fairness, complies with its open source obligations http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/technicaIndex.do?method=gotoProductSupport&productId=3019 http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/technicaIndex.do?metho...) - but there's no real way of knowing what secrets the silicon holds.
So, the UK has sold off the line equipment, monitoring filters, and mobile infrastructure to one company. What could possibly go wrong?
- bnc38 13y agoYou're right, we should go with US manufactured silicon. They are far more trustworthy.
- criley2 13y agoYou're being facetious, but the UK and the USA are in some of the tightest relationships of any countries ever. The Anglosphere runs deep with the "Five Eyes". The UK absolutely and fundamentally should trust the US over China -- after all, the UK and the USA have no-holds-barred sharing of intelligence and spying, while the UK and China have literally no pact at all and are adversarial in that regard. USA equipment would be orders of magnitude more safe for the British people, as by forming a pact with the US, the US has responsibility to the British government for the intelligence gathered (and vice versa on the mass amounts they collect on us through GCHQ!) But to pretend that the US is guilty and the UK innocent is absolutely, egregious biased and false. They dragnet over 200 fiber interconnects and literally copy all internet traffic for analysis. They are not our victims, they are our brothers in arms. Don't forget that!
- LekkoscPiwa 13y agobrothers in arms in what? Destroying the Bill of Rights?
- sp332 13y agoWe' have literally fought wars together. Don't think you can take that lightly.
- LekkoscPiwa 13y agowhat for if you rape the freedoms now? fighting for what? survillance state?
- sp332 13y agoWe're talking about foreign spies conducting industrial espionage and gathering state intelligence data. That's much less likely to happen from the USA than China.
- LekkoscPiwa 13y agoI don't know about that. A this point I wouldn't be too surprised to learn the US runs concentration camps.
- jarek 13y ago> We' have literally fought wars together. Don't think you can take that lightly. Well this is highest-level political commentary. Let's ignore the wars the US and UK fought against each other, and the times they allied with other countries. That one time the US and USSR fought a war together made them BFFs too...
- sp332 13y agoIn living memory, not so much.
- suhailpatel 13y agoHouses which also have BT's 330mbps FTTP (Fibre to the Premises) service have Openreach modems also made by Huawei (I have it installed myself)
- mcintyre1994 13y agoInterestingly, the BT router we had installed today appears to be from ECI Technology, Inc, an Israeli company. I had a quick look and I can't find them described as a Huawei shell or anything, only competitor. New back label, the rest looks the same as the Huawei one: http://www.imgur.com/0hJtXXH http://www.imgur.com/0hJtXXH
- andyking 13y agoI recently bought a Huawei phone from a large mobile phone dealer. £70 contract-free, with a dual-core processor and Android 4.1. Is there something I should be concerned about with this thing? It is remarkably cheap and seems good quality so far. I'll probably put Cyanogenmod on it if they come out with it, though.
- ZoF 13y agoSomething you personally should be concerned about? Doubtful.
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- jpswade 13y ago>BT own the monopoly on the copper infrastructure * Apart from in Hull[1] >they are the only company providing high speed ADSL * Apart from Virgin Media[2] 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_upon_Hull#Telephone_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_upon_Hull#Telephone_s... 2. http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/Stories/Virgin-Media-boosts-Britain-s-broadband-speeds-2322.aspx http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/Stories/Virgin-Media-boos...
- corin_ 13y agoVirgin Media generally provide cable services rather than ADSL - maybe they offer ADSL in some areas? But your link doesn't mention that at all.
- vidarh 13y agoI believe Virgin offers ADSL outside of the coverage of their cable network, but then it is over BTs copper, just as all the other ADSL providers.
- moocowduckquack 13y agoVirgin resell BT ADSL as a virtual ISP, like Tesco. It isn't just BT to the exchange, it is BT all the way if you cannot get cable and still go with Virgin.
- roberto7 13y agoIf you're going to be pedantic and point out minor inaccuracies of peoples posts at least be accurate yourself. 1. You don't need 100% of a market to be a monopoly. 2. Your second citation contains nothing about Virgin providing ADSL, they are primarily a cable broadband provider.
- pktgen 13y agoThat looks like a standard VDSL2 modem to me. If you do not want Huawei equipment, is there any reason you couldn't purchase your own VDSL2 modem from anywhere and use that?
- lnanek2 13y ago> but there's no real way of knowing what secrets the silicon holds. Technically, some places do melt down the chips with acid layer by layer and dissect what is actually in them. It isn't easy, and tough to miss things, though, I imagine. Will be interesting if we go back to the days when stories like the US managing to get back doored chips into Russia which blew up pipelines and stuff are actually happening.