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Have civilians ever been tried in US military courts?

by mortehu 13y ago

wooster 13y ago
Not since Ex parte Milligan (1866), AFAIK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_parte_Milligan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_parte_Milligan
glesica 13y ago
Have military prisoners ever been subjected to torture while awaiting trial? http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/10/bradley-manning-legal-scholars-letter http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/10/bradley-manning-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Detention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Detention It doesn't matter if he's tried in a civilian or military court, if he's tortured or otherwise subjected to inhumane treatment and if he is not likely to receive a fair trial then he should flee. Edit: typo
ry0ohki 13y ago
No, but they have been targeted by drones without a trial...
- jasonlotito 13y ago
  Once. Al Awlaki. I'll refer to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6107997 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6107997 for the rest.
  - CWuestefeld 13y ago
    Once. Al Awlaki. As far as we know. Remember, we are now in an age where we do not know what our government is doing. In fact, we're not allowed to know what it's doing, or even why we're not allowed to know. Smart money shouldn't bet that this is the only actual occurrence.
    - StevenRayOrr 13y ago
      We _know_ of one instance and that instance alone is bad enough that we should be alarmed, but "smart money" doesn't legitimize the claim that it has happened on multiple occasions.
    - jasonlotito 13y ago
      > As far as we know. Yes, anything else is pure speculation. Wars have started because of speculation like that. > Remember, we are now in an age where we do not know what our government is doing. That's naive. We are not now in such an age, it has always been like this. We are now in an age where it's far easier to know what is going on. Things aren't getting worse. They aren't getting less transparent. Read your history if you think the government was more transparent in decades past. It wasn't. We've done far, far worse than target Al Awlaki. Hell, if that's our biggest concern, we are doing well.

Have civilians ever been tried in US military courts?

by mortehu 13y ago

Have civilians ever been tried in US military courts?

Not since Ex parte Milligan (1866), AFAIK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_parte_Milligan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_parte_Milligan

glesica 13y ago

Have military prisoners ever been subjected to torture while awaiting trial? http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/10/bradley-manning-legal-scholars-letter http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/10/bradley-manning-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Detention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Detention It doesn't matter if he's tried in a civilian or military court, if he's tortured or otherwise subjected to inhumane treatment and if he is not likely to receive a fair trial then he should flee. Edit: typo

ry0ohki 13y ago

No, but they have been targeted by drones without a trial...

jasonlotito 13y ago
Once. Al Awlaki. I'll refer to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6107997 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6107997 for the rest.
- CWuestefeld 13y ago
  Once. Al Awlaki. As far as we know. Remember, we are now in an age where we do not know what our government is doing. In fact, we're not allowed to know what it's doing, or even why we're not allowed to know. Smart money shouldn't bet that this is the only actual occurrence.
  - StevenRayOrr 13y ago
    We _know_ of one instance and that instance alone is bad enough that we should be alarmed, but "smart money" doesn't legitimize the claim that it has happened on multiple occasions.
  - jasonlotito 13y ago
    > As far as we know. Yes, anything else is pure speculation. Wars have started because of speculation like that. > Remember, we are now in an age where we do not know what our government is doing. That's naive. We are not now in such an age, it has always been like this. We are now in an age where it's far easier to know what is going on. Things aren't getting worse. They aren't getting less transparent. Read your history if you think the government was more transparent in decades past. It wasn't. We've done far, far worse than target Al Awlaki. Hell, if that's our biggest concern, we are doing well.