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depending on the streaming quality, chromecast could help zynga port games to the TV and create new types of gaming experiences centered around the TV (where de

by panabee 13y ago

depending on the streaming quality, chromecast could help zynga port games to the TV and create new types of gaming experiences centered around the TV (where devices are controllers, and a laptop/desktop is the brain).

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rdl 13y ago
They're just basically in a holding pattern until they can do "real money gaming", is what I thought. It's not clear that they have any particular advantage in real money gaming over either new entrants or existing real money gaming/gambling companies, though, especially since there seems to have been a "brain drain" over the past 2 years.
- jelled 13y ago
  They specifically said on the earnings call that they are no longer pursuing real money gaming in the United States. Part of the reason why the stock tanked so hard in after hours.
  - rdl 13y ago
    Fuck. I had options :( (part of my "buy long positions in evil companies, especially after bad news; people underestimate the profit potential of evil and overestimate meaningful public or government reaction" -- generally works well though.)
    - steven777400 13y ago
      I've considered this strategy, but it seems to not be as reliable as one might expect. The obvious example is the BP oil spill. The stock lost half it's value, from about $60 a share to about $30 a share, in two weeks. However, if you didn't time the buy-in just right, you would have bought at around $35 - $40 a share (if you bought either early or late), and today it trades at $43. That's the difficulty with many analysis ideas - they work great in retrospect only, when you can see exactly when the low points are, and can believe "If I had bought on that day, I would have made a mint." But from day-to-day, determining "that day" is virtually impossible.
      - rdl 13y ago
        Yeah, I got into BP at 28x100, 30x200, 32x400 and got out at 45 (half each time it hit that) -- this was before I started playing with options instead. I intended to buy more on the way down. I was also planning to hold it indefinitely but needed the cash to buy other stuff (it's all in a Roth, so it's hard for me to put cash in.) In general, though, it's not about "buying on news", it's "buying sinful industries in general, but particularly on bad news/dips" -- defense, oil/coal, alcohol, etc. The other model I've used which has been far more effectively (and less disgusting morally) is "buy products I know a lot about and really like, as long as the company itself doesn't have serious financial or leadership problems"; TSLA, MSA (they make the world's best body armor, which I loved in Iraq, Paraclete), various arms manufacturers, etc.
        jlgaddis 13y ago
        > "buying sinful industries in general, but particularly on bad news/dips" Interesting model; haven't ever thought about it like that.
  - dakrisht 13y ago
    Exactly. They "gave up" on real money gaming. Not happening and won't save them.
pietro 13y ago
Chromecast doesn't stream from the device to the TV. It just receives a request from the device, then pulls the stream directly from the web. As far as I understand it, it's useless for games. Streaming with AirPlay, on the other hand, is a totally different story, especially with controller support in iOS7. It fully supports the scenarios you're talking about.
- rdl 13y ago
  It can also stream a Chrome tab in a browser.
  - panabee 13y ago
    precisely. chromecast is essentially a xbox killer and a platform for marrying the computing power of a desktop, the development model of the web, and the leanback experience of the TV (assuming the streaming works well).

by panabee 13y ago

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rdl 13y ago

They're just basically in a holding pattern until they can do "real money gaming", is what I thought. It's not clear that they have any particular advantage in real money gaming over either new entrants or existing real money gaming/gambling companies, though, especially since there seems to have been a "brain drain" over the past 2 years.

jelled 13y ago
They specifically said on the earnings call that they are no longer pursuing real money gaming in the United States. Part of the reason why the stock tanked so hard in after hours.
- rdl 13y ago
  Fuck. I had options :( (part of my "buy long positions in evil companies, especially after bad news; people underestimate the profit potential of evil and overestimate meaningful public or government reaction" -- generally works well though.)
  - steven777400 13y ago
    I've considered this strategy, but it seems to not be as reliable as one might expect. The obvious example is the BP oil spill. The stock lost half it's value, from about $60 a share to about $30 a share, in two weeks. However, if you didn't time the buy-in just right, you would have bought at around $35 - $40 a share (if you bought either early or late), and today it trades at $43. That's the difficulty with many analysis ideas - they work great in retrospect only, when you can see exactly when the low points are, and can believe "If I had bought on that day, I would have made a mint." But from day-to-day, determining "that day" is virtually impossible.
    - rdl 13y ago
      Yeah, I got into BP at 28x100, 30x200, 32x400 and got out at 45 (half each time it hit that) -- this was before I started playing with options instead. I intended to buy more on the way down. I was also planning to hold it indefinitely but needed the cash to buy other stuff (it's all in a Roth, so it's hard for me to put cash in.) In general, though, it's not about "buying on news", it's "buying sinful industries in general, but particularly on bad news/dips" -- defense, oil/coal, alcohol, etc. The other model I've used which has been far more effectively (and less disgusting morally) is "buy products I know a lot about and really like, as long as the company itself doesn't have serious financial or leadership problems"; TSLA, MSA (they make the world's best body armor, which I loved in Iraq, Paraclete), various arms manufacturers, etc.
      - jlgaddis 13y ago
        > "buying sinful industries in general, but particularly on bad news/dips" Interesting model; haven't ever thought about it like that.
- dakrisht 13y ago
  Exactly. They "gave up" on real money gaming. Not happening and won't save them.

pietro 13y ago

Chromecast doesn't stream from the device to the TV. It just receives a request from the device, then pulls the stream directly from the web. As far as I understand it, it's useless for games. Streaming with AirPlay, on the other hand, is a totally different story, especially with controller support in iOS7. It fully supports the scenarios you're talking about.

rdl 13y ago
It can also stream a Chrome tab in a browser.
- panabee 13y ago
  precisely. chromecast is essentially a xbox killer and a platform for marrying the computing power of a desktop, the development model of the web, and the leanback experience of the TV (assuming the streaming works well).