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Did this person actually go ahead and apply for any other full time jobs that were on offer on the amazon job site? I have seen this before where people expect

by tnuc 13y ago

Did this person actually go ahead and apply for any other full time jobs that were on offer on the amazon job site? I have seen this before where people expected to be presented full time jobs, when all they needed was a little prodding to go through the hoop jumping and formally apply.

anigbrowl 13y ago
A few of the temps, who had been on the project since X-Ray’s inception, applied for the now vacant position of project manager. I was convinced the position would be filled by one of two individuals who had trained me and acted as point people for questions and concerns when the manager was in a meeting. None of the temps who applied for the position got it, which most of us on the team found confusing because they were basically already doing the job.
- pasbesoin 13y ago
  It's been some considerable time, but I spent some time some decades ago working as a temp. In many cases -- institutional and/or individual perspectives -- it's essentially a class system. Regardless of ability, temps are "second class citizens". Or perhaps we should start to think of it as a "caste" system. Once you are "labelled" at an institution, depending on for whom you're working, your only way out may be to move to a different institution. These days in the U.S., that's not necessarily an easy proposition. It used to be that many business would hire temporary workers as essentially a "trial" period. If they liked you, you might well be offered a permanent position. These days, temporary employment has indeed turned for many into a shell game limiting liability and obligation to the employee. Truly fungible employment. It can be hard to be rid of that "fungible" label. "There are people who count, and people who don't."
- tnuc 13y ago
  That doesn't confirm that he applied for anything at all.
  - anigbrowl 13y ago
    He's not saying that he shouldn't have been let go. He's saying that the experienced team members, who were best qualified to fill the management position based on their visible competence, did apply and got nowhere. Why are you trying to make his application (or lack thereof) for a full-time position the critical factor?

by tnuc 13y ago

anigbrowl 13y ago

A few of the temps, who had been on the project since X-Ray’s inception, applied for the now vacant position of project manager. I was convinced the position would be filled by one of two individuals who had trained me and acted as point people for questions and concerns when the manager was in a meeting. None of the temps who applied for the position got it, which most of us on the team found confusing because they were basically already doing the job.

pasbesoin 13y ago
It's been some considerable time, but I spent some time some decades ago working as a temp. In many cases -- institutional and/or individual perspectives -- it's essentially a class system. Regardless of ability, temps are "second class citizens". Or perhaps we should start to think of it as a "caste" system. Once you are "labelled" at an institution, depending on for whom you're working, your only way out may be to move to a different institution. These days in the U.S., that's not necessarily an easy proposition. It used to be that many business would hire temporary workers as essentially a "trial" period. If they liked you, you might well be offered a permanent position. These days, temporary employment has indeed turned for many into a shell game limiting liability and obligation to the employee. Truly fungible employment. It can be hard to be rid of that "fungible" label. "There are people who count, and people who don't."
tnuc 13y ago
That doesn't confirm that he applied for anything at all.
- anigbrowl 13y ago
  He's not saying that he shouldn't have been let go. He's saying that the experienced team members, who were best qualified to fill the management position based on their visible competence, did apply and got nowhere. Why are you trying to make his application (or lack thereof) for a full-time position the critical factor?