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Please don't conflate Ruby and Rails.

• gaius 17y ago
  That's like saying don't conflate Tcl and Tk.
  • jballanc 17y ago
    No, it's not. The Ruby community has been around since long before Rails was on the scene, and has kept its mostly respectful and curiosity driven attitude for the entire time I've participated. Check the recent archives of ruby-talk, and I think you'll find the discussions rather un-heated, un-brash, and un-pornography-or-no-pornography laden.