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CouchDB merges in BigCouch

95 points by nslater 13y ago

ramy_d 13y ago
page isn't accessible at this time. does anyone have a short copy or something?
- mbroberg 13y ago
  From https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/welcome_bigcouch https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/welcome_bigcouch via http://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/ http://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/ THURSDAY JUL 25, 2013 Welcome BigCouch Good news! Cloudant has announced the completion of the BigCouch merge. This is a huge step forward for CouchDB. So thank you to Cloudant, and thank you to the committers (particularly Robert Newson and Paul Davis) who slogged (and travelled the world to pair with each other) to make this happen. What does this mean? Well, right now, the code is merged, but not released. So hold your clicks just a moment! Once the code has been tested, we will include it in one of our regular releases. (If you want to help us test, hop on to the dev@ mailing list!) What’s new? The key accomplishment of the merged code is that BigCouch’s clustering capability, along with the rest of Cloudant’s other enhancements to CouchDB’s code base, will now be available in Apache CouchDB. This also includes improvements in compaction and replication speed, as well as boosts for high-concurrency access performance. Painless replication has always been CouchDB's biggest feature. Now we get to take advantage of Cloudant’s experience running large distributed clusters in production for four years. With BigCouch merged in, CouchDB will be able to replicate data at a much larger scale. But wait! That’s not all! Cloudant has decided to terminate their BigCouch fork of CouchDB, and instead focus future development on Apache CouchDB. This is excellent news for CouchDB, even more excellent news for the CouchDB community. Here’s the original press release: Cloudant Contributes Database Scalability and Fault-Tolerance Framework to Apache CouchDB™ And here are some highlights from the press: Sofa, so good ... BigCouch relaxes into comfy Apache CouchDB (The Register) Cloudant pitches one CouchDB for all (GigaOM) Cloudant Merges BigCouch Into Apache CouchDB (eWeek) Cloudant Breathes Life Into CouchDB - Merges BigCouch into Apache Project (CMSwire) CouchDB Gets Cloudant's 'Super-Size Me' Scaling (InformationWeek) Cloudant Merges BigCouch Code into Apache Open Source Database (The WHIR) Cloudant Merges BigCouch Database into Open Source Apache CouchDB (The VAR Guy) Cloudant merges distributed BigCouch code with Apache CouchDB (JAXenter) Cloudant contributes database scalability and fault-tolerance framework to Apache CouchDB (SD Times) P.S. Cloudant is also hosting a party at OSCON on July 25 to celebrate the news. (They’re booth #305 if you’re at the show.) And if all that wasn’t enough, stay tuned for news about a CouchDB conference that we should be announcing shortly… Posted at 06:26PM Jul 25, 2013 by Noah in News | Comments[0] |
gecko 13y ago
I think CouchDB is vastly underrated as a hacker database for toy projects. We're talking about an incredibly simple database, with powerful replication abilities, with brain-dead administration, and one-click offsite backup and synchronization, that requires no real client libraries to work with. It makes it comically easy for me to hack on toy projects on the road, then sync them right back up afterwards when I'm done. I know CouchDB sometimes gets some flak for not performing as well as other NoSQLs. Anecdotally, that feels as if it's gotten a lot better over time, and this BigCouch merge may improve things further, but sometimes there's a case to be made for using something just because it's fun and easy to work with.
- batgaijin 13y ago
  Why not use the community edition of couchbase?
  - daleharvey 13y ago
    I worked on both databases, they have entirely different advantages / disadvantages and use cases, none of the OP really apply to couchbase.
  - Argorak 13y ago
    Because Couchbase has very different features and an almost completely different interface. For example, there is no changes stream, etc. The name lies a bit.
    - lackbeard 13y ago
      It's a horrible name.
  - rubiquity 13y ago
    Big difference for me is that Couchbase doesn't have an HTTP interface. That is one of my absolute favorite features of CouchDB (along with master-master replication and the changes stream).
  - 13y ago
mey 13y ago
Anyone familiar w/ the CouchDB community, can you describe how well it's working? From afar it seems to be a bit rudder less, but I could be misinterpreting the situation.
- daleharvey 13y ago
  Yeh the 3 founders essentially being pulled off the project to a competitor definitely took its toll. However one founder has returned full time to the project, and while I would still describe it as 'in recovery' its definitely looking promising, there have been more contributors than ever this year, theres exciting work in progress in the works including this bigcouch merge and fauxton, as ell as couch related project like hood.ie and (forgive the self promotion) pouchdb.com So its looking up, this email definitely sums up the current enthusiam for me - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201307.mbox/browser http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201307....
  - nslater 13y ago
    Dale, did you mean to link to this: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201307.mbox/%3C3CD8BEDD-EEE0-4C39-8DCA-81D92C226831@apache.org%3E http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201307....
    - daleharvey 13y ago
      I did cheers
    - evangineer 13y ago
      I found Jan Lehnardt's vision for CouchDB very compelling. It allows CouchDB to be the feature-rich core of a large, complex ecosystem, yet retain a ruthless focus on being the best multi-master replicating database available.
      - janl 13y ago
        Thank you :)
mark_l_watson 13y ago
I built BigCouch from source and played with it a few years ago. Cloudant is a cool company, and good of them to open source a big piece of their infrastructure. I am taking a fresh look at CouchDB. I have always had an aversion to JavaScript, which is what CouchDB views are written in, but lately I have been getting into JS more because of Meteor and Ember.js. Off topic, but I find using a subset of JS, and keeping JSLint running in IntelliJ makes for a nice dev environment.
- mlmilleratmit 13y ago
  Take a look at chewbranca's work on Fauxton in the master branch of couchdb, and some of his personal riffs at https://github.com/chewbranca/mr-turtles https://github.com/chewbranca/mr-turtles. The idea is to use tools like you mentioned to run JS in browser, on server, and in the database.
  - mark_l_watson 13y ago
    Thanks - I just bookmarked that.
- rdtsc 13y ago
  Hey Mark, It turns out with CouchDB you can use other view languages. Some common ones are Python, Coffeescript and Erlang. It is extensible. For example in some cases we found the Python viewer from the couchdb python driver package was faster than JS in some cases so we are using that.
  - mark_l_watson 13y ago
    Thanks, I didn't know about the CoffeeScript support. Nice!
- js4all 13y ago
  Despite JavaScript, you can also use CoffeeScript and Erlang. The later is un-sandboxed and that's why it is not enabled per default.
rubiquity 13y ago
This is incredibly good news. CouchDB is a fantastic database that doesn't get the attention it deserves. The best part about this merge is that CouchDB will get the scaling benefits that BigCouch offers. The load balancing and clustering of BigCouch is going to be incredibly useful for scaling CouchDB.
smagch 13y ago
I'm just using CouchDB right now for my side project. Cloudant is offering really great service although they don't provide multi-tenant service in Japan. But I'll go for Cloudant unless latency between Japan and Singapore matters. By the way, I posted another link three days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6088443 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6088443

95 points by nslater 13y ago

ramy_d 13y ago

page isn't accessible at this time. does anyone have a short copy or something?

mbroberg 13y ago
From https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/welcome_bigcouch https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/welcome_bigcouch via http://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/ http://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/ THURSDAY JUL 25, 2013 Welcome BigCouch Good news! Cloudant has announced the completion of the BigCouch merge. This is a huge step forward for CouchDB. So thank you to Cloudant, and thank you to the committers (particularly Robert Newson and Paul Davis) who slogged (and travelled the world to pair with each other) to make this happen. What does this mean? Well, right now, the code is merged, but not released. So hold your clicks just a moment! Once the code has been tested, we will include it in one of our regular releases. (If you want to help us test, hop on to the dev@ mailing list!) What’s new? The key accomplishment of the merged code is that BigCouch’s clustering capability, along with the rest of Cloudant’s other enhancements to CouchDB’s code base, will now be available in Apache CouchDB. This also includes improvements in compaction and replication speed, as well as boosts for high-concurrency access performance. Painless replication has always been CouchDB's biggest feature. Now we get to take advantage of Cloudant’s experience running large distributed clusters in production for four years. With BigCouch merged in, CouchDB will be able to replicate data at a much larger scale. But wait! That’s not all! Cloudant has decided to terminate their BigCouch fork of CouchDB, and instead focus future development on Apache CouchDB. This is excellent news for CouchDB, even more excellent news for the CouchDB community. Here’s the original press release: Cloudant Contributes Database Scalability and Fault-Tolerance Framework to Apache CouchDB™ And here are some highlights from the press: Sofa, so good ... BigCouch relaxes into comfy Apache CouchDB (The Register) Cloudant pitches one CouchDB for all (GigaOM) Cloudant Merges BigCouch Into Apache CouchDB (eWeek) Cloudant Breathes Life Into CouchDB - Merges BigCouch into Apache Project (CMSwire) CouchDB Gets Cloudant's 'Super-Size Me' Scaling (InformationWeek) Cloudant Merges BigCouch Code into Apache Open Source Database (The WHIR) Cloudant Merges BigCouch Database into Open Source Apache CouchDB (The VAR Guy) Cloudant merges distributed BigCouch code with Apache CouchDB (JAXenter) Cloudant contributes database scalability and fault-tolerance framework to Apache CouchDB (SD Times) P.S. Cloudant is also hosting a party at OSCON on July 25 to celebrate the news. (They’re booth #305 if you’re at the show.) And if all that wasn’t enough, stay tuned for news about a CouchDB conference that we should be announcing shortly… Posted at 06:26PM Jul 25, 2013 by Noah in News | Comments[0] |

gecko 13y ago

I think CouchDB is vastly underrated as a hacker database for toy projects. We're talking about an incredibly simple database, with powerful replication abilities, with brain-dead administration, and one-click offsite backup and synchronization, that requires no real client libraries to work with. It makes it comically easy for me to hack on toy projects on the road, then sync them right back up afterwards when I'm done. I know CouchDB sometimes gets some flak for not performing as well as other NoSQLs. Anecdotally, that feels as if it's gotten a lot better over time, and this BigCouch merge may improve things further, but sometimes there's a case to be made for using something just because it's fun and easy to work with.

batgaijin 13y ago
Why not use the community edition of couchbase?
- daleharvey 13y ago
  I worked on both databases, they have entirely different advantages / disadvantages and use cases, none of the OP really apply to couchbase.
- Argorak 13y ago
  Because Couchbase has very different features and an almost completely different interface. For example, there is no changes stream, etc. The name lies a bit.
  - lackbeard 13y ago
    It's a horrible name.
- rubiquity 13y ago
  Big difference for me is that Couchbase doesn't have an HTTP interface. That is one of my absolute favorite features of CouchDB (along with master-master replication and the changes stream).
- 13y ago

mey 13y ago

Anyone familiar w/ the CouchDB community, can you describe how well it's working? From afar it seems to be a bit rudder less, but I could be misinterpreting the situation.

daleharvey 13y ago
Yeh the 3 founders essentially being pulled off the project to a competitor definitely took its toll. However one founder has returned full time to the project, and while I would still describe it as 'in recovery' its definitely looking promising, there have been more contributors than ever this year, theres exciting work in progress in the works including this bigcouch merge and fauxton, as ell as couch related project like hood.ie and (forgive the self promotion) pouchdb.com So its looking up, this email definitely sums up the current enthusiam for me - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201307.mbox/browser http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201307....
- nslater 13y ago
  Dale, did you mean to link to this: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201307.mbox/%3C3CD8BEDD-EEE0-4C39-8DCA-81D92C226831@apache.org%3E http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201307....
  - daleharvey 13y ago
    I did cheers
  - evangineer 13y ago
    I found Jan Lehnardt's vision for CouchDB very compelling. It allows CouchDB to be the feature-rich core of a large, complex ecosystem, yet retain a ruthless focus on being the best multi-master replicating database available.
    - janl 13y ago
      Thank you :)

mark_l_watson 13y ago

I built BigCouch from source and played with it a few years ago. Cloudant is a cool company, and good of them to open source a big piece of their infrastructure. I am taking a fresh look at CouchDB. I have always had an aversion to JavaScript, which is what CouchDB views are written in, but lately I have been getting into JS more because of Meteor and Ember.js. Off topic, but I find using a subset of JS, and keeping JSLint running in IntelliJ makes for a nice dev environment.

mlmilleratmit 13y ago
Take a look at chewbranca's work on Fauxton in the master branch of couchdb, and some of his personal riffs at https://github.com/chewbranca/mr-turtles https://github.com/chewbranca/mr-turtles. The idea is to use tools like you mentioned to run JS in browser, on server, and in the database.
- mark_l_watson 13y ago
  Thanks - I just bookmarked that.
rdtsc 13y ago
Hey Mark, It turns out with CouchDB you can use other view languages. Some common ones are Python, Coffeescript and Erlang. It is extensible. For example in some cases we found the Python viewer from the couchdb python driver package was faster than JS in some cases so we are using that.
- mark_l_watson 13y ago
  Thanks, I didn't know about the CoffeeScript support. Nice!
js4all 13y ago
Despite JavaScript, you can also use CoffeeScript and Erlang. The later is un-sandboxed and that's why it is not enabled per default.

rubiquity 13y ago

This is incredibly good news. CouchDB is a fantastic database that doesn't get the attention it deserves. The best part about this merge is that CouchDB will get the scaling benefits that BigCouch offers. The load balancing and clustering of BigCouch is going to be incredibly useful for scaling CouchDB.

smagch 13y ago

I'm just using CouchDB right now for my side project. Cloudant is offering really great service although they don't provide multi-tenant service in Japan. But I'll go for Cloudant unless latency between Japan and Singapore matters. By the way, I posted another link three days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6088443 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6088443