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Ughhh. Just noticed that I can't install the XCode Command Line Tools because the dev center is down... no stdio.h on my system. What is this, the dark ages!? :
by jstsch 13y ago
Ughhh. Just noticed that I can't install the XCode Command Line Tools because the dev center is down... no stdio.h on my system. What is this, the dark ages!? :)
- nonchalance 13y agotemporary workaround: https://github.com/kennethreitz/osx-gcc-installer https://github.com/kennethreitz/osx-gcc-installer
- recuter 13y agoI seem to remember you could just Brew Install this and in fact that's what prompted Apple to provide an official standalone gcc de-bundled from XCode.
- PedroBatista 13y agoUnfortunately, it seems to be the future. Just like everything, the price of having an all knowing central authority must be paid somewhere sometime.
- briandear 13y agoThis has nothing to do with an "all knowing central authority." This only affects people selling or developing using Apple's tools or distibution. Turning this into George Orwell borders on ridiculous. When AWS goes down, which is far more frequent than the Apple Dev center, are you still making tin foil hat assumptions, despite the fact that AWS outages affect a significant portion of the web, while the dev center means that we can't download a particular tool to build an App that obstensibly makes us money. If the freeway gets shut down because of an accident, I don't think we equate that with a totalitarian plot. If I subscribed to Art Bell/Coast to Coast theories of the world, I'd be far more concerned about Google (and Facebook) than Apple. Google's product is you, sold to advertisers. Apple's product is primarily hardware. Apple has no financial incentive to know everything about you because that data doesn't really help them sell more stuff, if it does, it's marginal. While with Google, the more they know, the more they can then sell that information in the form of targeted advertising. Remember, Google is the one that wants(ed) to store health records. They store every single search query, indexed by IP, and if you're logged into to Gmail, to your name and every email you've ever sent. I don't hate Google or Apple, but to bring up some dystopian future because a dev center is down?
- ANH 13y agoMaybe you're overinterpreting the parent commenter, who makes a valid point. I read it as: This reminds us of our (increasing?) dependence on systems operated by opaque and fragile entities that, on top of it all, may have goals at odds with our own.
- aaronbrethorst 13y agoIn 1993, you were almost certainly going to have to pay money to write software on or for Mac OS. In 2013, you most certainly do not have to pay money on or for Mac OS X. Xcode is free-as-in-beer. You can install this if you want to avoid Apple's tooling: https://github.com/kennethreitz/osx-gcc-installer https://github.com/kennethreitz/osx-gcc-installer Ruby, Python, Perl and other interpreters come standard with OS X. As does a terminal. Things are better, not worse.
- eurleif 13y ago>In 2013, you most certainly do not have to pay money on or for Mac OS X. You have to join the Apple Developer Program, which costs $99/year, in order to distribute software that will run on OS X with default Gatekeeper settings. The registration for that program is currently down.
- aaronbrethorst 13y agoWhich is Apple's prerogative. I can't speak for the average user, but given the number of times that, say, Transmission has been downloaded solely through MacUpdate and CNET (1.5mm), it seems pretty clear that many users know how to turn Gatekeeper off.
- plorkyeran 13y agoRunning unsigned apps on 10.8 requires doing one of three things: 1. Using a browser other than Safari 2. Holding Option while opening the dmg 3. Changing the Gatekeeper settings In practice #1 means that many people never even notice Gatekeeper.
- AsymetricCom 13y agoYou agreed to this... You know there's a well known and simple solution... YOu could always... You know what, I know you know better, but perhaps you'd be interested in forfeiting your rights for a bit of convenience? Great!
- briandear 13y agoI love pseudo-haikus wrapped in dystopian drama.
- AsymetricCom 13y agoI hate when no amount of evidence and history will keep ostrich-types from calling you a crazy conspiracist. I guess we won't understand until food delivery is dependent on iPhone Apps.
- Steko 13y agoFWIW I highly recommend the Dominos iOS app (the food notsomuch). Don't even have to give your email unless you want to pay by cc. As for the Orwellian drama, most people aren't looking to be footsoldiers in the crusade. They develop for Apple because it puts steak on the gd dinner table and if developing for Firefox OS did the same they'd be doing that too but as of it today it doesn't.
- sambeau 13y agoYou can. I've just done it without hitch.
- bluedino 13y agoI installed them yesterday just fine on a new machine. Weird.
- teuobk 13y agoI successfully installed the XCode command line tools on a new machine yesterday via the Preferences dialog box in XCode. The web installation route is definitely unavailable, but the Preferences route appears to continue to work.
- jrochkind1 13y agoIf you don't yet have XCode though... out of luck? Man, I'm glad I bought and setup my new mac two weeks ago, and not one week ago.
- xuki 13y agoXcode 4 is available on the App Store.
- chiph 13y agoIs it no longer shipped on the install DVD?
- jrochkind1 13y agoThere are no longer any install DVD's for most macs, which don't come with optical drives anymore.