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It's not available yet, but will be posted first at http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2013&rollnumber=412&TB_iframe=true&height=400&width=650 http://

by dlg 13y ago

It's not available yet, but will be posted first at http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2013&rollnumber=412&TB_iframe=true&height=400&width=650 http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2013&rollnumber... SF HNers: Rep. Pelosi was against the ammendment.

gonzo 13y ago
so vote her out.
- flyt 13y ago
  Good luck with that, she is an incumbent and incumbents have a greater than 90% reelection rate. All of her primary challengers have been total nuts like Cindy Sheehan in the past, and she easily coasts to victory every two years.
  - igravious 13y ago
    Ah you must mean that nutbag Cindy Sheehan whose son was killed during the ill-judged invasion/occupation of Iraq. "Near the end of his active service, the U.S. invasion of Iraq began. [Casey] Sheehan reenlisted, knowing that his unit would be sent there.[5] Sheehan's division, the First Cavalry Division, was sent to Iraq. On March 19, 2004, Sheehan's Battery C, 1st Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment, arrived at FOB Camp War Eagle in Sadr City. On April 4, 2004, Sheehan was killed in action after volunteering to be part of a Quick Reaction Force to rescue American troops." She then goes on to become a vocal critic of the previous and current admin. She becomes an antiwar activist.
    - flyt 13y ago
      I don't doubt that she has conviction, but I question her ability to be an effective advocate in Congress compared to the (then) Speaker of the House.
  - WildUtah 13y ago
    Maybe Ro Khanna will move over and run against her! Seriously, though, Swalwell proved that it can be done. Get somebody serious to run against her. I know I always relished voting against her when I lived in SF even though I had to hold my nose and vote Republican.
  - ajays 13y ago
    > incumbents have a greater than 90% reelection rate Which is mind-boggling, considering that the Congress' approval rating is 12% ! Thing about it: only 12% of the people think that the Congress is doing a good job, and these people STILL get re-elected! Is it any wonder that we're in this mess? http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/07/24/obama-congress-nbc-wall-street-journal-poll/2581993/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/07/24/obama-congr...
    - mjn 13y ago
      That's Congress's general approval rating, when you ask someone to nonspecifically rate "Congress". When you ask them to rate their own specific Congressperson (which is who they can vote for or against), approval averages around 45-50%, and rises to 60% among people who actually know the Representative's name [1]. So the average American strongly dislikes Representatives from other districts, but is okay with their own. [1] http://www.gallup.com/poll/162362/americans-down-congress-own-representative.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/162362/americans-down-congress-ow...
benihana 13y ago
SF HNers: Rep. Pelosi was against the ammendment. Surprising no one.
jcdavis 13y ago
Its worth noting that from my quick glance, she was the only Bay Area congressperson to vote No. Incredibly disappointed
- _delirium 13y ago
  Depends on what you count as the Bay Area, but here's a tally for a sort of extended version of it: CA-2: Huffman (D), yes CA-3: Garamendi (D), yes CA-5: Thompson (D), no CA-11: Miller (D), yes CA-12: Pelosi (D), no CA-13: Lee (D), yes CA-14: Speier (D), yes CA-15: Swalwell (D), yes CA-17: Honda (D), yes CA-18: Eshoo (D), yes CA-19: Lofgren (D), yes CA-20: Farr (D), yes So 10/12 of the Bay Area voted yes, rather disproportionately in favor compared to the nationwide vote. Until putting together this list, I hadn't actually realized there are no Republicans in the entire extended Bay Area, incidentally. You have to go all the way to Modesto to find a GOP Congressman (in CA-10, where Denham voted "no").
- ajays 13y ago
  Because the SF people vote her in like sheep, again and again. She knows her seat is not threatened, so she'll vote in her _own_ interests. I refuse to vote for her. I'll vote for the Republican challenger every time.
  - bodyfour 13y ago
    Or, perhaps a little less cynically: she's the minority leader so she's expected to vote in the party's interest. When your party holds the White House that basically means supporting the administration. I don't mean this as a defense of Pelosi though. I'm also in CA-12; I usually just abstain from voting for US Rep.

by dlg 13y ago

gonzo 13y ago

so vote her out.

flyt 13y ago
Good luck with that, she is an incumbent and incumbents have a greater than 90% reelection rate. All of her primary challengers have been total nuts like Cindy Sheehan in the past, and she easily coasts to victory every two years.
- igravious 13y ago
  Ah you must mean that nutbag Cindy Sheehan whose son was killed during the ill-judged invasion/occupation of Iraq. "Near the end of his active service, the U.S. invasion of Iraq began. [Casey] Sheehan reenlisted, knowing that his unit would be sent there.[5] Sheehan's division, the First Cavalry Division, was sent to Iraq. On March 19, 2004, Sheehan's Battery C, 1st Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment, arrived at FOB Camp War Eagle in Sadr City. On April 4, 2004, Sheehan was killed in action after volunteering to be part of a Quick Reaction Force to rescue American troops." She then goes on to become a vocal critic of the previous and current admin. She becomes an antiwar activist.
  - flyt 13y ago
    I don't doubt that she has conviction, but I question her ability to be an effective advocate in Congress compared to the (then) Speaker of the House.
- WildUtah 13y ago
  Maybe Ro Khanna will move over and run against her! Seriously, though, Swalwell proved that it can be done. Get somebody serious to run against her. I know I always relished voting against her when I lived in SF even though I had to hold my nose and vote Republican.
- ajays 13y ago
  > incumbents have a greater than 90% reelection rate Which is mind-boggling, considering that the Congress' approval rating is 12% ! Thing about it: only 12% of the people think that the Congress is doing a good job, and these people STILL get re-elected! Is it any wonder that we're in this mess? http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/07/24/obama-congress-nbc-wall-street-journal-poll/2581993/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/07/24/obama-congr...
  - mjn 13y ago
    That's Congress's general approval rating, when you ask someone to nonspecifically rate "Congress". When you ask them to rate their own specific Congressperson (which is who they can vote for or against), approval averages around 45-50%, and rises to 60% among people who actually know the Representative's name [1]. So the average American strongly dislikes Representatives from other districts, but is okay with their own. [1] http://www.gallup.com/poll/162362/americans-down-congress-own-representative.aspx http://www.gallup.com/poll/162362/americans-down-congress-ow...

benihana 13y ago

SF HNers: Rep. Pelosi was against the ammendment. Surprising no one.

jcdavis 13y ago

Its worth noting that from my quick glance, she was the only Bay Area congressperson to vote No. Incredibly disappointed

_delirium 13y ago
Depends on what you count as the Bay Area, but here's a tally for a sort of extended version of it: CA-2: Huffman (D), yes CA-3: Garamendi (D), yes CA-5: Thompson (D), no CA-11: Miller (D), yes CA-12: Pelosi (D), no CA-13: Lee (D), yes CA-14: Speier (D), yes CA-15: Swalwell (D), yes CA-17: Honda (D), yes CA-18: Eshoo (D), yes CA-19: Lofgren (D), yes CA-20: Farr (D), yes So 10/12 of the Bay Area voted yes, rather disproportionately in favor compared to the nationwide vote. Until putting together this list, I hadn't actually realized there are no Republicans in the entire extended Bay Area, incidentally. You have to go all the way to Modesto to find a GOP Congressman (in CA-10, where Denham voted "no").
ajays 13y ago
Because the SF people vote her in like sheep, again and again. She knows her seat is not threatened, so she'll vote in her _own_ interests. I refuse to vote for her. I'll vote for the Republican challenger every time.
- bodyfour 13y ago
  Or, perhaps a little less cynically: she's the minority leader so she's expected to vote in the party's interest. When your party holds the White House that basically means supporting the administration. I don't mean this as a defense of Pelosi though. I'm also in CA-12; I usually just abstain from voting for US Rep.