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Email providers such as Google send a ping to the sender letting them know who is marking their messages as spam.
by cmwelsh 13y ago
Email providers such as Google send a ping to the sender letting them know who is marking their messages as spam.
- pepve 13y agoWhere do I find out more about this? A quick web search didn't yield anything.
- dbarlett 13y agoIt's called a feedback loop. http://www.dirigodev.com/content/email-feedback-loops/ http://www.dirigodev.com/content/email-feedback-loops/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuse_Reporting_Format https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuse_Reporting_Format https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6650 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6650
- gertef 13y agoWTF? There is an IETF standard for certifying that an spam victim's email address is valid and therefore should be exploited by sending more spam?
- eli 13y agoHuh? How did you conclude that? Tracking image loads and clicks would be a much more effective method of determining that an address is valid for both legitimate mass emails and spam.
- PavlovsCat 13y agoDoes Googlemail web client load images from random senders without asking the user first?
- eli 13y agoOnly if you've previously exchanged messages with them. How many people do you think load images versus click Report Spam on an ISP with a feedback loop? And which group do you think would be a better target for future messages?
- zrail 13y agoI don't have actual numbers, but a cursory examination of my Gmail spam box says spam senders don't generally provide a valid List-Unsubscribe header. One of Gmail's spam triggers may in fact be, someone clicked on the List-Unsubscribe header and the FBL message bounced.
- qwerty_asdf 13y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN-SPAM_Act_of_2003 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN-SPAM_Act_of_2003 There are laws regulating e-mail solicitations. People can be sued for SPAM, and incur criminal charges. Basically, if any mail provider notices that lots of its users complain about SPAM, they have legal standing to bring that person before a judge. Sending out a warning of possible legal repercussions is the first step. Presumably, the spammer is contacted via e-mail with a strongly worded message, since it's very clear that they have the ability to interact via e-mail. In theory, you as an individual, could run your own mail server, and if you received spam, you could threaten to sue or press charges. At some point before you actually do that though, you'd probably try to contact the person first. When cmwelsh uses the word "ping", that's just a euphemism for making contact, and not a specific technical term of any kind.
- zrail 13y agoWhile that's sort of correct, there actually is a technical "ping" called an FBL message that gets sent by the big providers when someone clicks the "report spam" button.