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Perhaps not, and I'm not trying to claim that the Iranian government is a shining example, not by a long shot. However, my government have contributed to the d

Perhaps not, and I'm not trying to claim that the Iranian government is a shining example, not by a long shot. However, my government have contributed to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

tome 13y ago
This is such an odd fallacy. "My government has done awful things around the world". True. "Therefore I support other governments that haven't done awful things around the world". Invalid conclusion. They would have done one hundred times more awful things around the world if only they had the capability. Thank goodness they don't.
- VBprogrammer 13y ago
  Indeed, that is a strange fallacy but I don't think it is one I've used. Both calling for someone to be killed and engaging in wars around the world are deplorable and I'd rather neither happened. Your assumption that Iran would have done worse things if only it could have appears to be completely without basis.
  - tome 13y ago
    > Indeed, that is a strange fallacy but I don't think it is one I've used. Both calling for someone to be killed and engaging in wars around the world are deplorable and I'd rather neither happened. Then I must have misunderstood your point. Could you clarify what you are trying to say with "Iran has not been an aggressor in a war in the last 150 years. How does that compare to your own country? I know it puts mine to shame." It is clear to me that Iran possesses the motive to put the US to shame when it comes to being violent and oppressive, but it does not have, thank goodness, the means or opportunity. > Your assumption that Iran would have done worse things if only it could have appears to be completely without basis. Not at all. Look what it does when it does have the means and opportunity. Rushdie's fatwa has already been pointed out to you, and you can look at everything that Hezbollah is doing around the globe under the orders of Khamenei.
- pasquinelli 13y ago
  if they had the capability they may have done one hundred times more awful things around the world, you mean.
  - tome 13y ago
    No I mean they would have done.
    - pasquinelli 13y ago
      well that's just not logical.

tome 13y ago

This is such an odd fallacy. "My government has done awful things around the world". True. "Therefore I support other governments that haven't done awful things around the world". Invalid conclusion. They would have done one hundred times more awful things around the world if only they had the capability. Thank goodness they don't.

VBprogrammer 13y ago
Indeed, that is a strange fallacy but I don't think it is one I've used. Both calling for someone to be killed and engaging in wars around the world are deplorable and I'd rather neither happened. Your assumption that Iran would have done worse things if only it could have appears to be completely without basis.
- tome 13y ago
  > Indeed, that is a strange fallacy but I don't think it is one I've used. Both calling for someone to be killed and engaging in wars around the world are deplorable and I'd rather neither happened. Then I must have misunderstood your point. Could you clarify what you are trying to say with "Iran has not been an aggressor in a war in the last 150 years. How does that compare to your own country? I know it puts mine to shame." It is clear to me that Iran possesses the motive to put the US to shame when it comes to being violent and oppressive, but it does not have, thank goodness, the means or opportunity. > Your assumption that Iran would have done worse things if only it could have appears to be completely without basis. Not at all. Look what it does when it does have the means and opportunity. Rushdie's fatwa has already been pointed out to you, and you can look at everything that Hezbollah is doing around the globe under the orders of Khamenei.
pasquinelli 13y ago
if they had the capability they may have done one hundred times more awful things around the world, you mean.
- tome 13y ago
  No I mean they would have done.
  - pasquinelli 13y ago
    well that's just not logical.