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Nice, hospitable, open people, good standard of living, great skiing. And a despotic government with no interest in war, just the subjugation of their own - an
by madaxe 13y ago
Nice, hospitable, open people, good standard of living, great skiing.
And a despotic government with no interest in war, just the subjugation of their own - and they'd still be a democratic secular republic if it weren't for the CIA orchestrated coup in '53 that resulted in the 79 coup, overthrowing the shah puppet govt.
- dghughes 13y agoNo interest in war?! The Iranian government funds every nutty group in the region.
- madaxe 13y agoDo they now. Was this bought to you by Fox News? Iran fund the reprehensible republican guard, and have horrors like Ashraf on their hands, but Iran stick to Iran.
- rm999 13y agoYes, they do. Iran has a huge influence outside their borders. Iran has been funding and aiding al-Assad in the Syrian civil war. Hamas was, for awhile, funded almost entirely by Iran. Hezbollah has also largely been funded and supported by Iran. There is evidence that Iran provided weapons to the Iraqi insurgency during the Iraq War. Here's a whole wikipedia article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state_terrorism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state_terrorism
- mpyne 13y agoAnd Hezbollah, and Syria. Possibly Iraq as well, but I'll admit that's only rumors I've heard.
- tome 13y agoAnd Burgas and AIMA and etc, etc.... Just because Iran do it through proxies doesn't mean it's not Iran.
- VBprogrammer 13y agoIran has not been an aggressor in a war in the last 150 years. How does that compare to your own country? I know it puts mine to shame.
- GabrielF00 13y agoHas your own government called for an author to be murdered as a sacred religious duty because he wrote a literary novel that they didn't like?
- VBprogrammer 13y agoPerhaps not, and I'm not trying to claim that the Iranian government is a shining example, not by a long shot. However, my government have contributed to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
- tome 13y agoThis is such an odd fallacy. "My government has done awful things around the world". True. "Therefore I support other governments that haven't done awful things around the world". Invalid conclusion. They would have done one hundred times more awful things around the world if only they had the capability. Thank goodness they don't.
- VBprogrammer 13y agoIndeed, that is a strange fallacy but I don't think it is one I've used. Both calling for someone to be killed and engaging in wars around the world are deplorable and I'd rather neither happened. Your assumption that Iran would have done worse things if only it could have appears to be completely without basis.
- tome 13y ago> Indeed, that is a strange fallacy but I don't think it is one I've used. Both calling for someone to be killed and engaging in wars around the world are deplorable and I'd rather neither happened. Then I must have misunderstood your point. Could you clarify what you are trying to say with "Iran has not been an aggressor in a war in the last 150 years. How does that compare to your own country? I know it puts mine to shame." It is clear to me that Iran possesses the motive to put the US to shame when it comes to being violent and oppressive, but it does not have, thank goodness, the means or opportunity. > Your assumption that Iran would have done worse things if only it could have appears to be completely without basis. Not at all. Look what it does when it does have the means and opportunity. Rushdie's fatwa has already been pointed out to you, and you can look at everything that Hezbollah is doing around the globe under the orders of Khamenei.
- znowi 13y agoIf we start listing how many wars, coups, invasions, militant groups (including Al-Qaeda) were founded by the US, Iran will quickly fade into irrelevance :) But also, if you look into the history of those nutty groups, they started out largely against the occupation by Israel and, "indirectly", the US. They were the fruits of unrest in the region stirred, then by Israel, and now by the US. If it's of any lesson, there will be more nutty groups coming out of this mess.