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What problems do you see with Office for Mac? Honestly curious.

aroman 13y ago
I for one find the interface positively infuriating. I don't have it installed any more, but when I was using Office 2011 for Mac I found that its integration into the OS, from copy/paste to basic UI principles, was horrible. It felt, frankly, as bad as using OpenOffice -- software which is designed to run mostly as-in on Linux, OS X, and Windows.
- derefr 13y ago
  It sounds like Office for Mac is just like iTunes for Windows, then.
  - aroman 13y ago
    Precisely :) Or, depending on who you ask[0], precisely the opposite. [0] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iwxnWuG_Ruw#t=65s http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iwx...
- mturmon 13y ago
  Counterpoint: I'm a several-times-weekly user of Word and PowerPoint in Office 2011, and I don't find them troublesome to the extent you do. My workload is small documents and presentations (usually < 50 pages, but with lots of graphics, typically 0.5-40MB all told). Typically exchanging documents with Windows and Mac users. I often use PPT to lay out simple diagrams, for instance, in preference to Illustrator. I could see how some things can get on your nerves (auto-formatting, reformatting of pasted objects, and I don't like the spelling and grammar check either) but I couldn't call it infuriating. And it did not approach using OpenOffice. I think you must be exaggerating there?
- crazygringo 13y ago
  It's funny, I thought I was the only one -- I too find it drives me nuts, but there's no single overarching reason why, it's hard to explain. There's just so much about it that's "not right" -- it doesn't feel like a Windows program, doesn't feel like a Mac program, performance issues... it's hard to point to any one thing, but it's just not pleasant. (Whereas I used Office on Windows for years, and it was great.) Just a random example, this morning I was trying to use Cmd+A to select all the text in a field in a dialog box, which kept activating a button which started with A instead, and there wasn't even a visual cue for it. That's not Windows OR Mac behavior, just totally broken behavior. And it's just full of those things.
  - aroman 13y ago
    Oh god, yes. I noticed that cmd+a thing (I really want to call it a bug) a while back. That's the kind of nonsense I expect (and receive) from something like GIMP on OS X. But a program that was coded from relative scratch to run on the Mac? It's really bizarre all around. Surely they don't want it to suck for the purpose of driving people away from the Mac... wouldn't they just want people to use their format? I wonder if Word:mac is the bastard-child of corporate conflicts of interest...

I for one find the interface positively infuriating. I don't have it installed any more, but when I was using Office 2011 for Mac I found that its integration into the OS, from copy/paste to basic UI principles, was horrible. It felt, frankly, as bad as using OpenOffice -- software which is designed to run mostly as-in on Linux, OS X, and Windows.

derefr 13y ago
It sounds like Office for Mac is just like iTunes for Windows, then.
- aroman 13y ago
  Precisely :) Or, depending on who you ask[0], precisely the opposite. [0] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iwxnWuG_Ruw#t=65s http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iwx...
mturmon 13y ago
Counterpoint: I'm a several-times-weekly user of Word and PowerPoint in Office 2011, and I don't find them troublesome to the extent you do. My workload is small documents and presentations (usually < 50 pages, but with lots of graphics, typically 0.5-40MB all told). Typically exchanging documents with Windows and Mac users. I often use PPT to lay out simple diagrams, for instance, in preference to Illustrator. I could see how some things can get on your nerves (auto-formatting, reformatting of pasted objects, and I don't like the spelling and grammar check either) but I couldn't call it infuriating. And it did not approach using OpenOffice. I think you must be exaggerating there?
crazygringo 13y ago
It's funny, I thought I was the only one -- I too find it drives me nuts, but there's no single overarching reason why, it's hard to explain. There's just so much about it that's "not right" -- it doesn't feel like a Windows program, doesn't feel like a Mac program, performance issues... it's hard to point to any one thing, but it's just not pleasant. (Whereas I used Office on Windows for years, and it was great.) Just a random example, this morning I was trying to use Cmd+A to select all the text in a field in a dialog box, which kept activating a button which started with A instead, and there wasn't even a visual cue for it. That's not Windows OR Mac behavior, just totally broken behavior. And it's just full of those things.
- aroman 13y ago
  Oh god, yes. I noticed that cmd+a thing (I really want to call it a bug) a while back. That's the kind of nonsense I expect (and receive) from something like GIMP on OS X. But a program that was coded from relative scratch to run on the Mac? It's really bizarre all around. Surely they don't want it to suck for the purpose of driving people away from the Mac... wouldn't they just want people to use their format? I wonder if Word:mac is the bastard-child of corporate conflicts of interest...