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Hold on a second: ... "how Greg KH should be tougher on people who contribute patches to -stable" ... I don't know about you but bar for patches going into sta

Hold on a second: ... "how Greg KH should be tougher on people who contribute patches to -stable" ... I don't know about you but bar for patches going into stable is that much higher. If people futzing about making crap code they can use it on their own servers, but when patching stable - they should fall in line or submit their code to development branches. Adding code to the kernel might be fine if you futzing about with your own server, but I sure as hell don't want Linus & Co. letting their guard down because they might hurt someone's feelings. I've worked with kind of Linus and I have learned from them far more than from most of considerate and gentle minded people(there are exceptions though).

jasonlotito 13y ago
No one is suggesting they let their guard down. You can keep your guard up and still maintain quality. > I've worked with kind of Linus and I have learned from them far more than from most of considerate and gentle minded people(there are exceptions though). That's because it's easier to act that way for most individuals. It takes real talent to balance the two.
sdse903 13y ago
"Now, I understand that Ingo Molnar and Linus Torvalds have a lot more experience in open source development than I do, but we can learn about this from scientific studies and statistics, rather than depending on unreliable personal experience." So we should rely on your personal experiences instead of scientific studies?
- EliRivers 13y ago
  Well that appears to be the exact opposite of what he said. "How odd," I thought. "I know; I'll read the blog post, and if there are no links to scientific studies, it's clear that sdse903 is making a valid point. If there are links to scientific studies, I'll know that sdse903 is either fantastically stupid, or some kind of dickhead." I won't ruin the surprise for everyone.
- pasbesoin 13y ago
  Many of us have... "survived" significant periods and... "mantras" of ostensibly objective "best practices", in our careers. Much of what is labelled as "science" turns out to be of a similar character. Whatever its label, we tire of the bullsh-t. I'll add my initial thought upon running across this HN title/topic: Well, if Linus is a jerk, at least he's an equal opportunity jerk. P.S. I think it worthy of further noting that in my perception, Linus may well not be "implementing" a "reward system" and "motivation". He may be implementing a filter. Discouraging crap, as opposed to encouraging contribution. Two different functions. I might do things somewhat differently than Linus. But then, I'm my own, different little snowflake.

jasonlotito 13y ago

No one is suggesting they let their guard down. You can keep your guard up and still maintain quality. > I've worked with kind of Linus and I have learned from them far more than from most of considerate and gentle minded people(there are exceptions though). That's because it's easier to act that way for most individuals. It takes real talent to balance the two.

sdse903 13y ago

"Now, I understand that Ingo Molnar and Linus Torvalds have a lot more experience in open source development than I do, but we can learn about this from scientific studies and statistics, rather than depending on unreliable personal experience." So we should rely on your personal experiences instead of scientific studies?

EliRivers 13y ago
Well that appears to be the exact opposite of what he said. "How odd," I thought. "I know; I'll read the blog post, and if there are no links to scientific studies, it's clear that sdse903 is making a valid point. If there are links to scientific studies, I'll know that sdse903 is either fantastically stupid, or some kind of dickhead." I won't ruin the surprise for everyone.
pasbesoin 13y ago
Many of us have... "survived" significant periods and... "mantras" of ostensibly objective "best practices", in our careers. Much of what is labelled as "science" turns out to be of a similar character. Whatever its label, we tire of the bullsh-t. I'll add my initial thought upon running across this HN title/topic: Well, if Linus is a jerk, at least he's an equal opportunity jerk. P.S. I think it worthy of further noting that in my perception, Linus may well not be "implementing" a "reward system" and "motivation". He may be implementing a filter. Discouraging crap, as opposed to encouraging contribution. Two different functions. I might do things somewhat differently than Linus. But then, I'm my own, different little snowflake.