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From nearly every perspective, this seems like a no brainer. 1. The hardware they talked about would be better than anything out there now, most likely better

From nearly every perspective, this seems like a no brainer. 1. The hardware they talked about would be better than anything out there now, most likely better than anything in 2014. 2. They mentioned dual boot. If you don't like Ubuntu, you can put on Android and have a better phone than anything out in the next year. 3. You'll get the first Ubuntu production phone. For $600 (today) or $830 (not today?) this is a freakin' no brainer.

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jkldotio 13y ago
If the hardware is open I expect you would be able to put the Firefox mobile OS on there as well.
- mrdl2287 13y ago
  Maybe you will be able to dual-boot with Firefox mobile OS as well.
tjdetwiler 13y ago
I disagree with (1)... that will probably be average hardware for 2014 (for high end devices because lets face it, all high end devices have roughly the same specs). You make a lot of assumptions with (2) as well. Given Canonical has 0 experience in putting out HW I wouldn't assume a top notch product since details like build quality and materials are important. (3) would be a negative for me... you would get the slowest, least power efficient, and most app-baron experience. I agree it's a no brainer though... PASS! $830 is way too much for me to beta test their product for them.
- fingerprinter 13y ago
  You think 4 gigs of ram, sapphire display and 128gb ssd are going to be the norm in 2014? Not very likely. That would be just about double the Samsung S4 right now. I don't think it is very likely for 2014. 2015, maybe though. And I don't think Canonical is going to build the phone but work with someone to do it. > (3) would be a negative for me... you would get the slowest, least power efficient, and most app-baron experience. Do you have any data to back that up? And don't forget that Android had very few apps when first launched. Very few. At least an Ubuntu phone will be able to run all the standard Ubuntu apps, and in converged mode, you'll get all the desktop apps as well, which is awesome.
  - tjdetwiler 13y ago
    You don't need data to know that the initial product will be the least optimized (in terms of speed/power) and fewest apps. I was speaking mostly in the domain of Ubuntu phones, since the experience will likely improve as they develop the product more, however I would be very surprised if Canonical manages to be faster and more efficient than either iOS or high end android devices at launch. I'm not saying they there isn't potential, I just don't have as much faith in Canonical as you seem to.
  - seabrookmx 13y ago
    The S4 has a 1080p screen (better than the edge) a Quad (comparable to the edge) and with SD cards, can be expanded to 128gb of storage on the cheap. Not to mention the app selection for Android is unbeatable. Sure it didn't have many apps in the early days, but because it was one of the first to market, it will retain this lead. Look at HP's touchpad, BB10, and Windows Phone - they've had years to catch up and have failed. The edge is a niche device and has it's place, but I'd say should be avoided by the average user. For $305 the Nexus 4 is the no-brainer.
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    - synchronise 13y ago
      The Nexua 4 is a no brainer? The lack of MicroSD expansion says otherwise.
      - socillion 13y ago
        The battery is also mediocre, at least with stock Android.
      - rat87 13y ago
        it has 16 GB of memory max and no sd card (in comparison I'm not too upset with my 64gb phone not having an sd slot)
    - slacka 13y ago
richardking 13y ago
all this is just words on paper right now- a competent marketing team can make any product sound amazing/indispensible. tack on the standard kickstarter/indiegogo delays, and this feels like as far from a no brainer as can be. i don't see how you could trust any company, let alone a company making their first phone, with $600/$830 before seeing and playing with the software OR the hardware.

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jkldotio 13y ago

If the hardware is open I expect you would be able to put the Firefox mobile OS on there as well.

mrdl2287 13y ago
Maybe you will be able to dual-boot with Firefox mobile OS as well.

tjdetwiler 13y ago

I disagree with (1)... that will probably be average hardware for 2014 (for high end devices because lets face it, all high end devices have roughly the same specs). You make a lot of assumptions with (2) as well. Given Canonical has 0 experience in putting out HW I wouldn't assume a top notch product since details like build quality and materials are important. (3) would be a negative for me... you would get the slowest, least power efficient, and most app-baron experience. I agree it's a no brainer though... PASS! $830 is way too much for me to beta test their product for them.

fingerprinter 13y ago
You think 4 gigs of ram, sapphire display and 128gb ssd are going to be the norm in 2014? Not very likely. That would be just about double the Samsung S4 right now. I don't think it is very likely for 2014. 2015, maybe though. And I don't think Canonical is going to build the phone but work with someone to do it. > (3) would be a negative for me... you would get the slowest, least power efficient, and most app-baron experience. Do you have any data to back that up? And don't forget that Android had very few apps when first launched. Very few. At least an Ubuntu phone will be able to run all the standard Ubuntu apps, and in converged mode, you'll get all the desktop apps as well, which is awesome.
- tjdetwiler 13y ago
  You don't need data to know that the initial product will be the least optimized (in terms of speed/power) and fewest apps. I was speaking mostly in the domain of Ubuntu phones, since the experience will likely improve as they develop the product more, however I would be very surprised if Canonical manages to be faster and more efficient than either iOS or high end android devices at launch. I'm not saying they there isn't potential, I just don't have as much faith in Canonical as you seem to.
- seabrookmx 13y ago
  The S4 has a 1080p screen (better than the edge) a Quad (comparable to the edge) and with SD cards, can be expanded to 128gb of storage on the cheap. Not to mention the app selection for Android is unbeatable. Sure it didn't have many apps in the early days, but because it was one of the first to market, it will retain this lead. Look at HP's touchpad, BB10, and Windows Phone - they've had years to catch up and have failed. The edge is a niche device and has it's place, but I'd say should be avoided by the average user. For $305 the Nexus 4 is the no-brainer.
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  - synchronise 13y ago
    The Nexua 4 is a no brainer? The lack of MicroSD expansion says otherwise.
    - socillion 13y ago
      The battery is also mediocre, at least with stock Android.
    - rat87 13y ago
      it has 16 GB of memory max and no sd card (in comparison I'm not too upset with my 64gb phone not having an sd slot)
  - slacka 13y ago

richardking 13y ago

all this is just words on paper right now- a competent marketing team can make any product sound amazing/indispensible. tack on the standard kickstarter/indiegogo delays, and this feels like as far from a no brainer as can be. i don't see how you could trust any company, let alone a company making their first phone, with $600/$830 before seeing and playing with the software OR the hardware.