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"For a phone to run a full desktop OS, it must have the raw power of a PC. We’ll choose the fastest available multi-core processor, at least 4GB of RAM and a ma

"For a phone to run a full desktop OS, it must have the raw power of a PC. We’ll choose the fastest available multi-core processor, at least 4GB of RAM and a massive 128GB of storage" I would love to be wrong but I'm not buying the promise of a (real world functioning) PC on a phone. ARM based chips are 1 order of magnitude slower than a desktop x86 counterpart, currently there is no such processor to perform as desktop. Maybe they are going the intel road, anyway the indiegogo pitch sounds more like wishful thinking than a real plan.

achiang 13y ago
My team dogfoods Ubuntu for Android every single day on the Nexus 4, and I'll say that it's performant enough to be a daily driver as a desktop replacement. Edge has 4GB of RAM planned, and will run even better than the N4.
- michaelbuddy 13y ago
  hows the camera for you? I use the n4 with android and the camera digital blur / tearing is pretty annoying. did you get around that or not use the camera much?
  - achiang 13y ago
    Ubuntu for Android is our convergence product: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android So we still use the Android software to drive the camera. As a photographer though, I have to say that I don't exactly hate the N4 camera. Built-in HDR is kinda nice, and has saved many shots for me.
- gnur 13y ago
  Is this available somewhere public?
  - achiang 13y ago
    Sorry, it is not public yet.
drdaeman 13y ago
> full desktop OS Maemo (full-fledged Debian-based mobile distro, now dead, thanks Elop) user here. Is Ubuntu Phone really running a full-fledged desktop-as-we-know-it GNU/Linux-derived distro? Because, after I heard about bionic+libhybris stuff and some chroot kludges I start highly doubt it. It's as "Ubuntu desktop" as chrooted Ubuntu install on Android, except for more optimized (compared to VNC-to-localhost, huh) video pipeline. My perception is that it's neither typical-GNU neither Android but something partially (in)compatible to both. Would be really nice if I'm wrong on this matter.
- fingerprinter 13y ago
  Your "wrong", but only b/c the container flip happened recently. They had the Android chroot thing to get going quickly, from what I can gather. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-July/037443.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-July/037... Ubuntu Touch is fully Ubuntu and can take advantage of all that goodness.
shurane 13y ago
Macbook Airs aren't as powerful as desktop Mac Pros, but they offer a great convenience to the owners. It's "good enough" for most things. I see the Ubuntu Edge as a similar device.

achiang 13y ago

My team dogfoods Ubuntu for Android every single day on the Nexus 4, and I'll say that it's performant enough to be a daily driver as a desktop replacement. Edge has 4GB of RAM planned, and will run even better than the N4.

michaelbuddy 13y ago
hows the camera for you? I use the n4 with android and the camera digital blur / tearing is pretty annoying. did you get around that or not use the camera much?
- achiang 13y ago
  Ubuntu for Android is our convergence product: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android So we still use the Android software to drive the camera. As a photographer though, I have to say that I don't exactly hate the N4 camera. Built-in HDR is kinda nice, and has saved many shots for me.
gnur 13y ago
Is this available somewhere public?
- achiang 13y ago
  Sorry, it is not public yet.

drdaeman 13y ago

> full desktop OS Maemo (full-fledged Debian-based mobile distro, now dead, thanks Elop) user here. Is Ubuntu Phone really running a full-fledged desktop-as-we-know-it GNU/Linux-derived distro? Because, after I heard about bionic+libhybris stuff and some chroot kludges I start highly doubt it. It's as "Ubuntu desktop" as chrooted Ubuntu install on Android, except for more optimized (compared to VNC-to-localhost, huh) video pipeline. My perception is that it's neither typical-GNU neither Android but something partially (in)compatible to both. Would be really nice if I'm wrong on this matter.

fingerprinter 13y ago
Your "wrong", but only b/c the container flip happened recently. They had the Android chroot thing to get going quickly, from what I can gather. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-July/037443.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-July/037... Ubuntu Touch is fully Ubuntu and can take advantage of all that goodness.

shurane 13y ago

Macbook Airs aren't as powerful as desktop Mac Pros, but they offer a great convenience to the owners. It's "good enough" for most things. I see the Ubuntu Edge as a similar device.