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And I hate the "I can't imagine how to do this, so it's not possible" argument. We have syslogs going back 7 years. You want to come audit our network? I'll be

by WayneDB 13y ago

And I hate the "I can't imagine how to do this, so it's not possible" argument. We have syslogs going back 7 years. You want to come audit our network? I'll bet you all of the money in my bank account that you find nothing. > with the usual suspects--Java, Flash, Adobe Reader, etc... Nobody in my house runs those. > It's all about staying on the machine, and staying silent. They have to communicate over the network at some point though. Otherwise, it'd be useless. So yeah - as far as I know - and that's pretty damn far.

thirsteh 13y ago
> And I hate the "I can't imagine how to do this, so it's not possible" argument. I can imagine how to do it. But I also know that 99.9% of people don't. > > with the usual suspects--Java, Flash, Adobe Reader, etc... > Nobody in my house runs those. That's very unusual, and you'll have to agree. Let's assume that you are really doing so much that AV is completely moot. You're still being reckless by giving people the impression that they can just uninstall it and continue doing what they were doing (i.e. using Java, Flash, Adobe Reader, etc.), and everything will be exactly the same.
- WayneDB 13y ago
  No. I am not. Read my original post again where I said: ...if you know what you're doing. Where did I imply anything remotely close to what you just said?
  - thirsteh 13y ago
    Well, if you don't define what "if you know what you're doing" means, it could be anything from "running Chrome" to "using curl on an OpenBSD box and parsing the source manually." But I was referring to that and the general sentiment that "AV is shit and you can just uninstall it." Literally anything could be possible "if you know what you're doing" if you leave it that ambiguous.
    - WayneDB 13y ago
      That's right. I was not specific. How then could you have possibly derived that very specific accusation from my own non-specific offering?

by WayneDB 13y ago

thirsteh 13y ago

> And I hate the "I can't imagine how to do this, so it's not possible" argument. I can imagine how to do it. But I also know that 99.9% of people don't. > > with the usual suspects--Java, Flash, Adobe Reader, etc... > Nobody in my house runs those. That's very unusual, and you'll have to agree. Let's assume that you are really doing so much that AV is completely moot. You're still being reckless by giving people the impression that they can just uninstall it and continue doing what they were doing (i.e. using Java, Flash, Adobe Reader, etc.), and everything will be exactly the same.

WayneDB 13y ago
No. I am not. Read my original post again where I said: ...if you know what you're doing. Where did I imply anything remotely close to what you just said?
- thirsteh 13y ago
  Well, if you don't define what "if you know what you're doing" means, it could be anything from "running Chrome" to "using curl on an OpenBSD box and parsing the source manually." But I was referring to that and the general sentiment that "AV is shit and you can just uninstall it." Literally anything could be possible "if you know what you're doing" if you leave it that ambiguous.
  - WayneDB 13y ago
    That's right. I was not specific. How then could you have possibly derived that very specific accusation from my own non-specific offering?