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My problem with this article is that the assumptions used are simply mirrors of his criticisms. He remarks that 'all they have' is a number of convictions but t

My problem with this article is that the assumptions used are simply mirrors of his criticisms. He remarks that 'all they have' is a number of convictions but the arguments on the other side are also particularly weak. Considering the film Avatar literally has what can only be considered an animal rape scene in it and very few people noticed and actually took children to watch it I don't think 'rape culture' is a particularly egregious term. I'm no uberfeminist, but I can certainly see how pornography is extremely abusive in most cases. There's a reason there is a genre called 'porn for women' whos primary draw is that there's no gagging or slapping or facials. Sure some women enjoy these actions, but why the heck is it everywhere in porn?

mattstocum 13y ago
> Considering the film Avatar literally has what can only be considered an animal rape scene First, have you ever seen two animals have sex? It's almost always what humans would call rape. Second, the "animal rape" scene isn't any more rape than a human riding a horse is (I'm assuming you're referring to the Navi riding the dragon things). It depicted an activity that was normal for those species in their culture.
- hahainternet 13y ago
  Coerced sex does occur but 'almost always' is completely wrong. Besides I am not talking about two animals mating, as you then go on to say, it is a scene where a sapient, intelligent being subjugates a 'lesser' creature using a sexual organ for their own goals. It's really not something that belongs in a film that was so widely promoted.
  - mattstocum 13y ago
    >it is a scene where a sapient, intelligent being subjugates a 'lesser' creature using a sexual organ for their own goals If you take out the "sexual organ" (I partially disagree with that term as it is also used for the transfer of thoughts) how is this any different than a human riding a horse? In both situations you have a sapient, intelligent being subjugating a "lesser" creature for their own goals.
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    Never visit a farm, you would not be able to handle it.

mattstocum 13y ago

> Considering the film Avatar literally has what can only be considered an animal rape scene First, have you ever seen two animals have sex? It's almost always what humans would call rape. Second, the "animal rape" scene isn't any more rape than a human riding a horse is (I'm assuming you're referring to the Navi riding the dragon things). It depicted an activity that was normal for those species in their culture.

hahainternet 13y ago
Coerced sex does occur but 'almost always' is completely wrong. Besides I am not talking about two animals mating, as you then go on to say, it is a scene where a sapient, intelligent being subjugates a 'lesser' creature using a sexual organ for their own goals. It's really not something that belongs in a film that was so widely promoted.
- mattstocum 13y ago
  >it is a scene where a sapient, intelligent being subjugates a 'lesser' creature using a sexual organ for their own goals If you take out the "sexual organ" (I partially disagree with that term as it is also used for the transfer of thoughts) how is this any different than a human riding a horse? In both situations you have a sapient, intelligent being subjugating a "lesser" creature for their own goals.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  Never visit a farm, you would not be able to handle it.