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It's funny how people still imagine the government plays by some rule book. They only pretend to. If they so choose, they will make it illegal to design or pro

It's funny how people still imagine the government plays by some rule book. They only pretend to. If they so choose, they will make it illegal to design or produce ANY mind altering substance without an express license. Of course, only big pharma will be able to afford such a license. Watch and learn how the fascists work and play in the fields of the lord.

venomsnake 13y ago
Illegal to produce - easy. Illegal to design - that is almost impossible to enforce and way too vague to be of any use. Can we kinda stay away from jailing people for thinking? I want to delay 1984 or Minority Report a few more years.
shabble 13y ago
How do you know it's mind-altering ahead of time though? They're sold as "bath salts" or "incense" for plausible deniability. Actually banning any abusable chemical in any form would have a massive impact on a whole range of industries. Even heavy regulation of precursors and otherwise important chemicals hasn't stopped novel ways of doing without them. So you're still playing catch-up, even if you make sure your analytic lab gets the sample on day 1, and presents you with firm evidence of both (a) what's actually in the thing, GC/MS/NMR etc, and (b) how & why you think it's "mind-altering". Sample $z acts as a dopamine releasing agent in the homogenized rat neural tissue[1]" is enough to publish a pre-clinical study on it, but I'd at least hope it could be challenged if it came to a court. And of course, it doesn't have any impact whatsoever on abuse of pharmaceuticals, which is already on track to beat out most other drugs in terms of accidents & fatalities in the (near) future. According to [2], it may even have happened already to the USA. [1] brain soup. [2] http://www.pewhealth.org/uploadedFiles/PHG/Content_Level_Pages/Reports/PDMP_Full%20and%20Final.pdf http://www.pewhealth.org/uploadedFiles/PHG/Content_Level_Pag... (not read it yet, although there's a press release/summary at https://generalstrikeusa.wordpress.com/2013/07/14/prescription-drugs-now-kill-more-people-in-the-us-than-heroin-and-cocaine-combined/ https://generalstrikeusa.wordpress.com/2013/07/14/prescripti... )

venomsnake 13y ago

Illegal to produce - easy. Illegal to design - that is almost impossible to enforce and way too vague to be of any use. Can we kinda stay away from jailing people for thinking? I want to delay 1984 or Minority Report a few more years.

shabble 13y ago

How do you know it's mind-altering ahead of time though? They're sold as "bath salts" or "incense" for plausible deniability. Actually banning any abusable chemical in any form would have a massive impact on a whole range of industries. Even heavy regulation of precursors and otherwise important chemicals hasn't stopped novel ways of doing without them. So you're still playing catch-up, even if you make sure your analytic lab gets the sample on day 1, and presents you with firm evidence of both (a) what's actually in the thing, GC/MS/NMR etc, and (b) how & why you think it's "mind-altering". Sample $z acts as a dopamine releasing agent in the homogenized rat neural tissue[1]" is enough to publish a pre-clinical study on it, but I'd at least hope it could be challenged if it came to a court. And of course, it doesn't have any impact whatsoever on abuse of pharmaceuticals, which is already on track to beat out most other drugs in terms of accidents & fatalities in the (near) future. According to [2], it may even have happened already to the USA. [1] brain soup. [2] http://www.pewhealth.org/uploadedFiles/PHG/Content_Level_Pages/Reports/PDMP_Full%20and%20Final.pdf http://www.pewhealth.org/uploadedFiles/PHG/Content_Level_Pag... (not read it yet, although there's a press release/summary at https://generalstrikeusa.wordpress.com/2013/07/14/prescription-drugs-now-kill-more-people-in-the-us-than-heroin-and-cocaine-combined/ https://generalstrikeusa.wordpress.com/2013/07/14/prescripti... )