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I'm not really wrong on that score, just look at some of the paintings in the article, and check out his website. Many of the examples given aren't even very go

by rdouble 13y ago

I'm not really wrong on that score, just look at some of the paintings in the article, and check out his website. Many of the examples given aren't even very good, especially the "winter landscape" image 7/8 in the article. I don't want to sound like I'm slagging some little kid, because it's great for a child of his age, but if he was even slightly older, say 11 or 12, he wouldn't be selling anything. There are loads of young painters this good in China, for example, and they aren't selling for 5 digits. The interesting part of story is that the kid is actually selling the paintings for such amounts. If he was just painting them but not selling them, I'm not sure this would even make the news.

moocowduckquack 13y ago
"I'm not really wrong on that score" Well, you are though. You said that his work has no market outside of art fairs, and that is patently untrue as he is selling them for a lot of money and not through art fairs. You also claimed that it is easy to tell a painting's quality from low resolution photographs and that these paintings are "typical Bob Ross stuff" when they are in a very different style from Bob Ross. Basically, as far as I can tell, you either want an argument out of this, or are merely pissed off that some kid has got rich from paintings you don't personally appreciate after only seeing photos of them on the net.
- rdouble 13y ago
  I didn't mean this kid's paintings don't have a market outside of art fairs, I meant that is where this sort of impressionist painting is usually found when produced by someone else.
- snogglethorpe 13y ago
  Yeah, one of the very amazing things about going to an art museum is that paintings are often incredibly different in "real life" than they are in reproductions (pictures on the net, postcards, posters, etc, even high-quality art books). It's not just the colors, which are very often completely mutilated by reproductions—and sometimes that's inevitable as many paints react to light in a way that's simply not possible to reproduce using simple colors and standard inks, from differences in gloss, to metallic pigments, to paints with embedded "stuff", to paints that are oddly "intense" (due to fluorescence?)—but also the textures of paintings, which can range from dead flat to subtle but noticeable strokes, to painting where the paint is literally 10+cm thick, and sculpted, often with fabric and other materials incorporated. Seeing a painting on wikipedia is not really seeing it. This isn't mere pedantry either—in many cases it's an utterly different experience.
  - jrs99 13y ago
    I don't think it takes a trip to the gallery to conclude that the paintings aren't all that great. After all, the paintings themselves are based on photographs: http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2010/08/kieron_williamson_8-year-old_p.html http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2010/08/kieron_willi...
    - foobarbazqux 13y ago
      It's only uncommon to paint exclusively from photographs.
  - Someone 13y ago
    They are working on that: you can buy a 3D printed replica of a van Gogh: http://www.3ders.org/articles/20130722-3d-replicas-of-van-gogh-masterpieces.html http://www.3ders.org/articles/20130722-3d-replicas-of-van-go... (haven't seen one, but at $25,000 a piece, they better be good)
    - snogglethorpe 13y ago
      That's cool... adding texture helps ... but the paint composition itself is equally or more important. I suppose they could go as far as trying to replicate that too, but the cynic in me says probably not...
- Yourfags 13y ago
  I'm sorry, but everyone can have an opinion about art, that's what makes it so easy to value it at so high a price, and in my opinion I'd probably never pay even a thousand dollars for one of those paintings. Now that's me, somebody may like them more, but I still just from a scroll through them have trouble understanding what the commotion is all about, except perhaps that he's so young.

by rdouble 13y ago

moocowduckquack 13y ago

"I'm not really wrong on that score" Well, you are though. You said that his work has no market outside of art fairs, and that is patently untrue as he is selling them for a lot of money and not through art fairs. You also claimed that it is easy to tell a painting's quality from low resolution photographs and that these paintings are "typical Bob Ross stuff" when they are in a very different style from Bob Ross. Basically, as far as I can tell, you either want an argument out of this, or are merely pissed off that some kid has got rich from paintings you don't personally appreciate after only seeing photos of them on the net.

rdouble 13y ago
I didn't mean this kid's paintings don't have a market outside of art fairs, I meant that is where this sort of impressionist painting is usually found when produced by someone else.
snogglethorpe 13y ago
Yeah, one of the very amazing things about going to an art museum is that paintings are often incredibly different in "real life" than they are in reproductions (pictures on the net, postcards, posters, etc, even high-quality art books). It's not just the colors, which are very often completely mutilated by reproductions—and sometimes that's inevitable as many paints react to light in a way that's simply not possible to reproduce using simple colors and standard inks, from differences in gloss, to metallic pigments, to paints with embedded "stuff", to paints that are oddly "intense" (due to fluorescence?)—but also the textures of paintings, which can range from dead flat to subtle but noticeable strokes, to painting where the paint is literally 10+cm thick, and sculpted, often with fabric and other materials incorporated. Seeing a painting on wikipedia is not really seeing it. This isn't mere pedantry either—in many cases it's an utterly different experience.
- jrs99 13y ago
  I don't think it takes a trip to the gallery to conclude that the paintings aren't all that great. After all, the paintings themselves are based on photographs: http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2010/08/kieron_williamson_8-year-old_p.html http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2010/08/kieron_willi...
  - foobarbazqux 13y ago
    It's only uncommon to paint exclusively from photographs.
- Someone 13y ago
  They are working on that: you can buy a 3D printed replica of a van Gogh: http://www.3ders.org/articles/20130722-3d-replicas-of-van-gogh-masterpieces.html http://www.3ders.org/articles/20130722-3d-replicas-of-van-go... (haven't seen one, but at $25,000 a piece, they better be good)
  - snogglethorpe 13y ago
    That's cool... adding texture helps ... but the paint composition itself is equally or more important. I suppose they could go as far as trying to replicate that too, but the cynic in me says probably not...
Yourfags 13y ago
I'm sorry, but everyone can have an opinion about art, that's what makes it so easy to value it at so high a price, and in my opinion I'd probably never pay even a thousand dollars for one of those paintings. Now that's me, somebody may like them more, but I still just from a scroll through them have trouble understanding what the commotion is all about, except perhaps that he's so young.