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I refuse to do business with walmart... their buisness ethics are just horrible.

by thezach 13y ago

danellis 13y ago
Where do you go instead?
- antidaily 13y ago
  Farmers markets
  - rschmitty 13y ago
    I have trouble going to farmers markets. Wife works in a bay area hospital and takes care of many Hispanic patients, a large majority do farm labor. I think working for Walmart would be a major upgrade vs what they get in return for working on the farm. However I do not know that all the farms that come to farmers markets use the same kind of employment or that is only for the mega corp farms selling to the rest of the country... I know organic food is already "expensive" but it seems like they should do something to increase these peoples quality of life
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    - rdouble 13y ago
      Farm laborers get paid by how productive they are rather than by the hour. It's shit work but pays 2-3x more "per hour" than Wal Mart. Plus it's easy to pack in a lot of work, whereas Wal-Mart generally only lets employees work about 30 hours a week.
      - qwerty888 13y ago
        Not according to this. "Farm workers had low individual earnings from farm work; the median income from farm work was between $2,500 and $5,000. Three-fourths earned less than $10,000 annually." http://www.doleta.gov/agworker/report/ch3.cfm http://www.doleta.gov/agworker/report/ch3.cfm
        rdouble 13y ago
        Right, but they make all their money over a few months, so the per-hour take home is more than Wal Mart. I'm not suggesting that it's a good job, only offering an explanation as to why someone would choose to do it vs. a minimum wage job.
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- thezach 13y ago
  Farmers Markets, Meijer, Amazon
  - Hello71 13y ago
    > Amazon That's not much of an improvement.
- wasd 13y ago
  I don't know how much better Target is but that's one alternative. What do you usually purchase at Walmart that can't be purchased else where? I live in the Bay Area and getting to the closest Walmart is very difficult so I haven't been there in years.
ars 13y ago
You shouldn't get your news from unions. Unions don't like walmart because it's not a union shop, and it's large so make a nice target. Walmart itself is no different from any other large retailer.
- gee_totes 13y ago
  Except for Costco, which manages to pay it's employees a decent wage and still keep prices low.
  - ars 13y ago
    Costco is not in the same business as WalMart. They have an order of magnitude fewer SKU's. They deal with a completely different clientèle, and the profit for each item is much higher, so their labor costs are lower. You can not compare WalMart and Costco.
    - derefr 13y ago
      Except that, if you have both a WalMart and a CostCo in your town, you'll still make a cost-comparison, between: cost of set of things found at WalMart A + cost of a few extra things not found at WalMart B + travel time T and cost of set of things found at CostCo A' + cost of a few extra things not found at CostCo B' + travel time T' In other words, you might not be able to find all the same things at WalMart and CostCo, or for the same prices, but if you're in the price-range of both stores and trying to optimize your purchasing, you'll still be deciding which one to shop at.
      - ars 13y ago
        First that's a comparison for the shopper, not the retailer (and we are discussing the retailer here). And second, you can only buy at Costco if you need the quantities they sell. Everything you can get at Costco you can also get at WalMart, but the reverse is not the case - it's not "a few extra thing" - Costco doesn't carry a huge amount of stuff you can get at WalMart. So for the consumer buying at Costco is exclusively about what quantity they need. (Or if they have a lot of storage space + budget to store extra.) And then they also have to go to WalMart to fill in the rest. Or in other words they complement each other - they are only partially competitors.

I refuse to do business with walmart... their buisness ethics are just horrible.

by thezach 13y ago

I refuse to do business with walmart... their buisness ethics are just horrible.

danellis 13y ago

Where do you go instead?

antidaily 13y ago
Farmers markets
- rschmitty 13y ago
  I have trouble going to farmers markets. Wife works in a bay area hospital and takes care of many Hispanic patients, a large majority do farm labor. I think working for Walmart would be a major upgrade vs what they get in return for working on the farm. However I do not know that all the farms that come to farmers markets use the same kind of employment or that is only for the mega corp farms selling to the rest of the country... I know organic food is already "expensive" but it seems like they should do something to increase these peoples quality of life
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  - rdouble 13y ago
    Farm laborers get paid by how productive they are rather than by the hour. It's shit work but pays 2-3x more "per hour" than Wal Mart. Plus it's easy to pack in a lot of work, whereas Wal-Mart generally only lets employees work about 30 hours a week.
    - qwerty888 13y ago
      Not according to this. "Farm workers had low individual earnings from farm work; the median income from farm work was between $2,500 and $5,000. Three-fourths earned less than $10,000 annually." http://www.doleta.gov/agworker/report/ch3.cfm http://www.doleta.gov/agworker/report/ch3.cfm
      - rdouble 13y ago
        Right, but they make all their money over a few months, so the per-hour take home is more than Wal Mart. I'm not suggesting that it's a good job, only offering an explanation as to why someone would choose to do it vs. a minimum wage job.
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thezach 13y ago
Farmers Markets, Meijer, Amazon
- Hello71 13y ago
  > Amazon That's not much of an improvement.
wasd 13y ago
I don't know how much better Target is but that's one alternative. What do you usually purchase at Walmart that can't be purchased else where? I live in the Bay Area and getting to the closest Walmart is very difficult so I haven't been there in years.

ars 13y ago

You shouldn't get your news from unions. Unions don't like walmart because it's not a union shop, and it's large so make a nice target. Walmart itself is no different from any other large retailer.

gee_totes 13y ago
Except for Costco, which manages to pay it's employees a decent wage and still keep prices low.
- ars 13y ago
  Costco is not in the same business as WalMart. They have an order of magnitude fewer SKU's. They deal with a completely different clientèle, and the profit for each item is much higher, so their labor costs are lower. You can not compare WalMart and Costco.
  - derefr 13y ago
    Except that, if you have both a WalMart and a CostCo in your town, you'll still make a cost-comparison, between: cost of set of things found at WalMart A + cost of a few extra things not found at WalMart B + travel time T and cost of set of things found at CostCo A' + cost of a few extra things not found at CostCo B' + travel time T' In other words, you might not be able to find all the same things at WalMart and CostCo, or for the same prices, but if you're in the price-range of both stores and trying to optimize your purchasing, you'll still be deciding which one to shop at.
    - ars 13y ago
      First that's a comparison for the shopper, not the retailer (and we are discussing the retailer here). And second, you can only buy at Costco if you need the quantities they sell. Everything you can get at Costco you can also get at WalMart, but the reverse is not the case - it's not "a few extra thing" - Costco doesn't carry a huge amount of stuff you can get at WalMart. So for the consumer buying at Costco is exclusively about what quantity they need. (Or if they have a lot of storage space + budget to store extra.) And then they also have to go to WalMart to fill in the rest. Or in other words they complement each other - they are only partially competitors.