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kinda offtopic, but on a related note: is it me or has Eclipse development stalled? I fail to find any noteworthy list of features for 4.3, and I don't remember

by zalew 13y ago

kinda offtopic, but on a related note: is it me or has Eclipse development stalled? I fail to find any noteworthy list of features for 4.3, and I don't remember any exciting changes during last version upgrade except growing into a bigger resources hog leaking memory like diarrhea. those Netbeans features look really cool, any experience with Python plugins? how does it compare to PyDev/Aptana?

JVerstry 13y ago
Several years ago, I tried NetBeans vs Eclipse and chose NetBeans altough it was far from perfect, but Eclispe was not better. The GUI was better. I do not regret my choice. NetBeans has always progressively improved on its weaknesses, releases after releases. I revisited Eclispe a couple of times, but was not overall convinced by it.
- zalew 13y ago
  I chose Eclipse back in the day (3.2?) and forgot about the existence of NB, nowadays I'm starting to slowly drift towards Vim or lightweight ides like NinjaIDE, yet my bloat editor habits still demand having something packaged at hand. I guess I'll try NB74.
- harrytuttle 13y ago
  Does it do incremental compilation now? One of the killers for me with NetBeans (and Visual Studio) was the compilation waits. I'd swap back from eclipse in an instance if they do that.
  - JVerstry 13y ago
    It has for a long time. Just invoke the 'Build Project' (F11) functionality, instead of the 'Clean & Build Project' one (Shift+F11). Or if you mean dynamic recompilation of your code as you type it to warn you of possible errors, then yes, it does that too...
    - harrytuttle 13y ago
      Excellent. Thanks for the information.
Proleps 13y ago
It's not you. I've always been an Eclipse guy. Netbeans was to heavy on my machine back in the day. I've only stuck with it because I am very familiar with it. I'm going to switch to Netbeans on my next project because I feel I've been missing out on a lot.
moondowner 13y ago
Eclipse Kepler was released just few weeks ago. http://eclipse.org/kepler/ http://eclipse.org/kepler/ In my opinion development is not stalled at all, and if you check the 'plugins' section of the release http://eclipse.org/kepler/projects.php http://eclipse.org/kepler/projects.php there are a lot of related projects to Eclipse and all of them are in active development. Not to mention that there are a lot of other plugins that are not a part of the 'standard release' and Eclipse based IDE's like Spring Tool Suite - that are active as well. And if someone points out that there are some bugs that are reported years ago and they are not still resolved, that means only that Eclipse needs more manpower to focus on that as well, not that the development is stalled, the guys are pushing on new things and some stuff can get lower priority.

by zalew 13y ago

JVerstry 13y ago

Several years ago, I tried NetBeans vs Eclipse and chose NetBeans altough it was far from perfect, but Eclispe was not better. The GUI was better. I do not regret my choice. NetBeans has always progressively improved on its weaknesses, releases after releases. I revisited Eclispe a couple of times, but was not overall convinced by it.

zalew 13y ago
I chose Eclipse back in the day (3.2?) and forgot about the existence of NB, nowadays I'm starting to slowly drift towards Vim or lightweight ides like NinjaIDE, yet my bloat editor habits still demand having something packaged at hand. I guess I'll try NB74.
harrytuttle 13y ago
Does it do incremental compilation now? One of the killers for me with NetBeans (and Visual Studio) was the compilation waits. I'd swap back from eclipse in an instance if they do that.
- JVerstry 13y ago
  It has for a long time. Just invoke the 'Build Project' (F11) functionality, instead of the 'Clean & Build Project' one (Shift+F11). Or if you mean dynamic recompilation of your code as you type it to warn you of possible errors, then yes, it does that too...
  - harrytuttle 13y ago
    Excellent. Thanks for the information.

Proleps 13y ago

It's not you. I've always been an Eclipse guy. Netbeans was to heavy on my machine back in the day. I've only stuck with it because I am very familiar with it. I'm going to switch to Netbeans on my next project because I feel I've been missing out on a lot.

moondowner 13y ago

Eclipse Kepler was released just few weeks ago. http://eclipse.org/kepler/ http://eclipse.org/kepler/ In my opinion development is not stalled at all, and if you check the 'plugins' section of the release http://eclipse.org/kepler/projects.php http://eclipse.org/kepler/projects.php there are a lot of related projects to Eclipse and all of them are in active development. Not to mention that there are a lot of other plugins that are not a part of the 'standard release' and Eclipse based IDE's like Spring Tool Suite - that are active as well. And if someone points out that there are some bugs that are reported years ago and they are not still resolved, that means only that Eclipse needs more manpower to focus on that as well, not that the development is stalled, the guys are pushing on new things and some stuff can get lower priority.