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>Win8 is hated/feared more than Vista was. True and obvious among techies but not sure about the average joe. >The new xbox is probably the most panned produc
by nivla 13y ago
>Win8 is hated/feared more than Vista was.
True and obvious among techies but not sure about the average joe.
>The new xbox is probably the most panned product announcement I've ever seen.
They really f#ed up on that one (not the concept but the way it was presented) and it got worse when Sony decided to throw in a few blows while they were still down.
>Office 365 and Hosted Exchange are not competitors to Google Apps, they're poor competitors to Office and Exchange.
Agree it wasn't the best Idea to go cloud. They just made it easy for their existing consumers to compare the pros and cons between them and Google's offering.
>Windows Phone has been a dismal failure in terms of actual customer traction - especially outside USA.
What? If anything Windows Phone and Nokia is growing exceptionally in the emerging markets specifically India and Africa.
>Surface Pro is not even in the same market segment as an iPad.
Yes it is. Surface Pro is a great mix of device. I already have a laptop/utrabook but wanted a tablet when travelling. The options were Ipad, Nexus 10 or Surface pro. I ended up choosing Surface pro because it offers everything I need in a tablet while letting me use my work apps on the go. Git, Visual Studio, Photoshop, you name it, if it installs on your laptop, it installs on the Surface. Can't emphasize how productive it has been ever since I got it.
- jlgreco 13y ago> >Win8 is hated/feared more than Vista was. > True and obvious among techies but not sure about the average joe. I've actually noticed the opposite. Techies seem to largely think "eh, interesting but I'm not interested" while regular consumers nearly pass out ranting about it. That's my take-away from talking with coworkers/peers, and my extended family. The sales figures probably bear this out.. it isn't techies avoiding Windows 8 that is causing those poor numbers.
- tluyben2 13y ago> What? If anything Windows Phone and Nokia is growing exceptionally in the emerging markets specifically India and Africa. Do people like it though? I'm in the EU and everyone, including me, who has Windows phones really despise them. Not only techies; one of my friends threw hers into the toilet because she couldn't bear that crap anymore. Which is stupid ofcourse, but it shows how deep the hatred goes. The thing just really doesn't work on many levels. We make apps for it because clients ask us too, but I would never use that thing in it's current form for anything other than that. I have done for a few months and it was a joke. So with aggressive marketing (which I see all around me here) they manage to sell a lot of these phones, but do people actually like them? I haven't seen anyone happy with it except a few people here on HN. I don't really understand how that works, but everyone who I meet in real life really hates it. Surface I don't know; lot of people here on HN seem to like it. I tried it in the shop and the keyboard was annoying the crap out of me after about 5 seconds. I'm used to Apple chiclet keyboards now and I type blind and fast; it seemed to really not function that well doing that. Maybe I need more than 5 seconds, but the first impression was that it was a toy. And only a tablet is worthless as I need to write code.
- rsynnott 13y ago> What? If anything Windows Phone and Nokia is growing exceptionally in the emerging markets specifically India and Africa. Well, Windows Phone is. Nokia is declining in those markets; it's simply cannibalising its existing large Symbian market there with WP.