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Nicely put. I personally find this frustrating to deal with. I've also learned that the most open of individuals are usually in the least amount of need for a g

Nicely put. I personally find this frustrating to deal with. I've also learned that the most open of individuals are usually in the least amount of need for a good thought-provoking debate.

lukifer 13y ago
I believe that one shouldn't try to debate an idea until you can understand why a reasonable person might come to the opposing conclusion. Solves the empathy problem and "what if I'm wrong" problem in one stroke. Many people are incorrect, but few are actually crazy (and it is mostly pointless to debate those who are).
justindz 13y ago
This has been my basic frustration with what I call "YouTube logic," which seems to take this form: 1) Determine what you would prefer to be true. 2) Spend your time absorbing and referencing supporting evidence, at the expense of verifying its credibility. 3) When presented with contradicting evidence, spend your time dismissing or discrediting it, at the expense of verifying its credibility. 4) Re-affirm your belief successfully through willful or accidental intellectual dishonesty. Perhaps there's a formal name for this. YouTube logic works for me, though, because that makes it sound appropriately juvenile.
- tokenizer 13y ago
  I like Information Saturation. The idea that for some people, instead of using the internet as an intelligent, character building resource, the internet uses them with it's strong polarizing and insular force of saturating them with distractions and half-truths. The individual may think they have choices of what to think, but ultimately the specific forum and/or resource may already be tailored to their biases. We even have our most popular English search engine, google, tailoring your biases at the discovery phase of research. I can't remember the specific presentation, but I seem to recall an example of the search "Egypt", which displayed revolution in one user window, and vacation opportunities in the other. If you think this is interesting, try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo1qzjC_5xI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo1qzjC_5xI

Nicely put. I personally find this frustrating to deal with. I've also learned that the most open of individuals are usually in the least amount of need for a good thought-provoking debate.

lukifer 13y ago

I believe that one shouldn't try to debate an idea until you can understand why a reasonable person might come to the opposing conclusion. Solves the empathy problem and "what if I'm wrong" problem in one stroke. Many people are incorrect, but few are actually crazy (and it is mostly pointless to debate those who are).

justindz 13y ago

This has been my basic frustration with what I call "YouTube logic," which seems to take this form: 1) Determine what you would prefer to be true. 2) Spend your time absorbing and referencing supporting evidence, at the expense of verifying its credibility. 3) When presented with contradicting evidence, spend your time dismissing or discrediting it, at the expense of verifying its credibility. 4) Re-affirm your belief successfully through willful or accidental intellectual dishonesty. Perhaps there's a formal name for this. YouTube logic works for me, though, because that makes it sound appropriately juvenile.

tokenizer 13y ago
I like Information Saturation. The idea that for some people, instead of using the internet as an intelligent, character building resource, the internet uses them with it's strong polarizing and insular force of saturating them with distractions and half-truths. The individual may think they have choices of what to think, but ultimately the specific forum and/or resource may already be tailored to their biases. We even have our most popular English search engine, google, tailoring your biases at the discovery phase of research. I can't remember the specific presentation, but I seem to recall an example of the search "Egypt", which displayed revolution in one user window, and vacation opportunities in the other. If you think this is interesting, try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo1qzjC_5xI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo1qzjC_5xI