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You seem pretty sure of yourself, and some differing data points would be nice to hear. Are you raising a family in the Bay Area?

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catch23 17y ago
There are quite a few poor families making a living in the Bay Area that happen to have other mouths to feed too. If you want more data points, come visit my neighbors and ask them how they do it. The cost of living here is not as bad as you might think.
- comatose_kid 17y ago
  I probably should have been more clear - are there areas in the bay area with good schools, and homes that require significantly less earnings than 175k per year (say, 125k?) And I'd like to not spend 2 hrs commuting, because spending time with my children would be nice. In my experience, you have to pay a lot more here to get the same quality of life that you could find elsewhere. I live in the Bay area, and am raising a family here. It is expensive - 175K/yr would probably buy you the same standard of living as 80k/yr would in Ottawa, Canada, where I grew up.
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  - erlanger 17y ago
    1> % Assuming both parents work 1> 125000 / 2 == 62500. true
  - tptacek 17y ago
    It's not as if it's hard to actually figure out the cost of living difference between Ottawa and San Francisco. They're ranked all over the place. Ottawa and Chicago are neighbors in the rankings on the first page of the Google results. $80,000 in Ottawa therefore approximates $108,000 in San Francisco.
- Chocobean 17y ago
  to raise a family with all the luxuries, conveniences and advantages money can buy, you're gonna need a lot more than $175k. How else can one pay for therapy sessions for the 5 year old, country club riding lessons with the older kid and semi-annual Euro trips for your entire family? But if you can't raise a family with $175k, making appropriate "sacrifices" to pet expenditures that aren't necessary, and getting the best value of your money when it needs to be spent, you are doing it wrong.
mlinsey 17y ago
The Bay Area is much bigger than the area immediately around Sand Hill Road; there are certainly neighborhoods where you can raise a family on 175K.
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catch23 17y ago

There are quite a few poor families making a living in the Bay Area that happen to have other mouths to feed too. If you want more data points, come visit my neighbors and ask them how they do it. The cost of living here is not as bad as you might think.

comatose_kid 17y ago
I probably should have been more clear - are there areas in the bay area with good schools, and homes that require significantly less earnings than 175k per year (say, 125k?) And I'd like to not spend 2 hrs commuting, because spending time with my children would be nice. In my experience, you have to pay a lot more here to get the same quality of life that you could find elsewhere. I live in the Bay area, and am raising a family here. It is expensive - 175K/yr would probably buy you the same standard of living as 80k/yr would in Ottawa, Canada, where I grew up.
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- erlanger 17y ago
  1> % Assuming both parents work 1> 125000 / 2 == 62500. true
- tptacek 17y ago
  It's not as if it's hard to actually figure out the cost of living difference between Ottawa and San Francisco. They're ranked all over the place. Ottawa and Chicago are neighbors in the rankings on the first page of the Google results. $80,000 in Ottawa therefore approximates $108,000 in San Francisco.
Chocobean 17y ago
to raise a family with all the luxuries, conveniences and advantages money can buy, you're gonna need a lot more than $175k. How else can one pay for therapy sessions for the 5 year old, country club riding lessons with the older kid and semi-annual Euro trips for your entire family? But if you can't raise a family with $175k, making appropriate "sacrifices" to pet expenditures that aren't necessary, and getting the best value of your money when it needs to be spent, you are doing it wrong.

mlinsey 17y ago

The Bay Area is much bigger than the area immediately around Sand Hill Road; there are certainly neighborhoods where you can raise a family on 175K.

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