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Presumably you've heard the phrase that "we can disagree without being disagreeable". I agree that I would much rather work with Linus than Wikipedians, but I'
by knowtheory 13y ago
Presumably you've heard the phrase that "we can disagree without being disagreeable".
I agree that I would much rather work with Linus than Wikipedians, but I'd also prefer working with people who I trust to give me their honest opinion without a needless verbal shelacking.
You could also ask me if i'd prefer to have my hand or my foot cut off (foot for the record), but personally my preference is to find a way to keep all of my limbs intact.
The point over which I absolutely support Sarah Sharp is that what Linus is doing is essentially hazing. He's trying to enforce societal norms by handing out verbal beatings, and trying to encourage others to enforce his norms via his methods.
That is a problem. Tart replies regarding criticism of code, or how code is managed is one thing. Trying to encourage a culture of verbal abuse is entirely another.
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Sidebar: There are organizations that do work these sorts of verbal dressing downs as a systematic tactic. The Marines are famous for it. The objective is to provide shared hardship to encourage bonding amongst a group of trainees. They're also famous for fucking it up (so much so that we've got films like Full Metal Jacket to memorialize the experience).
But FOSS and Kernel contribution is not like the Marines. There is no inherent unit of social support to fall into. If you're lucky enough to be part of a group, or to have someone say "oh yeah, that's how Linus is" then maybe you get over it and inure yourself to the abuse. Or maybe you just stop contributing to the Kernel.
- jessaustin 13y agoOr maybe you just stop contributing to the Kernel. I'm sure there are many potential contributors who have dropped out due to discomfort with communications. (Although it seems Linus reserves the most emotional tirades for long-time contributors whose performance he feels has declined.) However, does it make any sense to argue that the kernel needs more contributors? ISTM the kernel is moving as fast as can be expected or desired: some distros lag the kernel by increasing amounts.