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> People die all the fucking time. Its what people do, we die. Yes, and it's a problem! We should be doing everything we can so that people finally STOP DYING.

> People die all the fucking time. Its what people do, we die. Yes, and it's a problem! We should be doing everything we can so that people finally STOP DYING. And we should strive especially hard when it's children dying because their parents are too used to everyone dying to ASK FOR HELP. Now, in some cases it's difficult. We can't do it for everyone just yet. But in this case it's not. >These people, if the suppositions are to be believed, have been able to survive and reproduce for tens of thousands of years. Oh, that makes it all right then! Let's stop any kinds of aid, it's not like people will go extinct. Most of them will die, but some will survive and reproduce, and that makes it all right!

king_jester 13y ago
> Yes, and it's a problem! We should be doing everything we can so that people finally STOP DYING. There is a difference between dying as a result of problems in our society and dying as the inevitable result of having been born. Societies generally have fix their own issues, other people cannot do it for them. As outsiders who know nothing of the society of the people living on this island, we cannot and should not attempt to change their society to a way we feel more appropriate, that is literally genocide.
- Anderkent 13y ago
  >dying as the inevitable result of having been born Dying is not the inevitable result of having been born (or rather, dying before the heat death of the universe is not). >As outsiders who know nothing of the society of the people living on this island, we cannot and should not attempt to change their society to a way we feel more appropriate, that is literally genocide. Genocide: ..any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. It's definitely not literally genocide.
  - king_jester 13y ago
    > Genocide: ..any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: > (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. > It's definitely not literally genocide. That is such an incomplete definition of genocide. No doubt genocide commonly is used to refer to physical violence, but cultural genocide is a real and well documented phenomenon. Pulling a dictionary definition of a large concept like this is insulting and is a farce. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_genocide

king_jester 13y ago

> Yes, and it's a problem! We should be doing everything we can so that people finally STOP DYING. There is a difference between dying as a result of problems in our society and dying as the inevitable result of having been born. Societies generally have fix their own issues, other people cannot do it for them. As outsiders who know nothing of the society of the people living on this island, we cannot and should not attempt to change their society to a way we feel more appropriate, that is literally genocide.

Anderkent 13y ago
>dying as the inevitable result of having been born Dying is not the inevitable result of having been born (or rather, dying before the heat death of the universe is not). >As outsiders who know nothing of the society of the people living on this island, we cannot and should not attempt to change their society to a way we feel more appropriate, that is literally genocide. Genocide: ..any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. It's definitely not literally genocide.
- king_jester 13y ago
  > Genocide: ..any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: > (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. > It's definitely not literally genocide. That is such an incomplete definition of genocide. No doubt genocide commonly is used to refer to physical violence, but cultural genocide is a real and well documented phenomenon. Pulling a dictionary definition of a large concept like this is insulting and is a farce. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_genocide