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OSX lets me get more stuff done than Linux (or FreeBSD, which is what I used to use) while maintaining the ability to freely develop programs in a simple *nix e

by cjensen 13y ago

OSX lets me get more stuff done than Linux (or FreeBSD, which is what I used to use) while maintaining the ability to freely develop programs in a simple *nix environment. Apple has yet to sue anyone other than blatant and uninspired copyists, so I just don't care about the issues you feel so strongly about. My enthusiasm for Free Software died years ago thanks to the ridiculous amounts of CADT (http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html) in the Free GUIs. Constant change without benefit is just not interesting to me. Meanwhile, Apple has been advancing in really important ways that are not being sufficiently imitated by Windows and Linux: user-friendly backup; removal of the mental model where "file on disk" is somehow different than "file in editor"; unlimited file versioning; a sweet app store; mandatory code-signing.

dirkgently 13y ago
> Apple has yet to sue anyone other than blatant and uninspired copyists, so I just don't care about the issues you feel so strongly about. Where do we start? Lets see: Apple v/s New York City over 'GreeNYC' logo : http://www.widespotlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/greenyc290.png http://www.widespotlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/gree... Apple v/s Victoria School of Business and Technology over this logo : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Victoria_School_of_Business_and_Technology_Inc_Logo.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Victoria_...) Apple v/s Woolworths Limited over this logo - http://www.topnews.in/files/Woolworths.gif http://www.topnews.in/files/Woolworths.gif Apple v/s Amazon for the use of "App" And let's not talk about the abuse of Rounded Corners (TM)(R)(C)
- cjensen 13y ago
  That would appear to be standard "you must defend your trademark or else it is invalid" lawsuits. Those cases have nothing to do with software freedom.
  - dirkgently 13y ago
    Oh yes, those logos were so very close to Apple logo. Common bully behavior is worse then propitiatory software madness.
userulluipeste 13y ago
"OSX lets me get more stuff done than Linux while maintaining the ability to freely develop programs..." And Windows might be getting you more stuff than OSX, but that was not the point for GNU world, wasn't it? It was about the free and especially the open part. "Apple has yet to sue anyone other than blatant and uninspired copyists" Let's keep a little less brazen attitude about tech and engineering, shall we? Just because lines were crossed in the dark age doesn't mean that those lines aren't in place any more. "Meanwhile, Apple has been advancing in really important ways" I do not deny true innovation, but we all know that the reason for some matters being "really important" is sole for just being Apple-related. "that are not being sufficiently imitated by Windows and Linux" Might it be that not all Apple "advancements" are worth to be "imitated"? "sweet app store" ...and incurable Apple fan-boy.
- cjensen 13y ago
  The use of the phrase "Apple fan-boy" pretty much destroys your credibility. Try not to do that.
  - userulluipeste 13y ago
    It's not my intent to acquire credibility, it is to rise awareness. I got a lot of down-votes in my past comments when I emphasized the use of subliminal Apple-promoting messages. I was aware of the risks I was exposing myself now. Please, try to be moderate when you'll further approach Apple-related subjects.

by cjensen 13y ago

dirkgently 13y ago

> Apple has yet to sue anyone other than blatant and uninspired copyists, so I just don't care about the issues you feel so strongly about. Where do we start? Lets see: Apple v/s New York City over 'GreeNYC' logo : http://www.widespotlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/greenyc290.png http://www.widespotlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/gree... Apple v/s Victoria School of Business and Technology over this logo : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Victoria_School_of_Business_and_Technology_Inc_Logo.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Victoria_...) Apple v/s Woolworths Limited over this logo - http://www.topnews.in/files/Woolworths.gif http://www.topnews.in/files/Woolworths.gif Apple v/s Amazon for the use of "App" And let's not talk about the abuse of Rounded Corners (TM)(R)(C)

cjensen 13y ago
That would appear to be standard "you must defend your trademark or else it is invalid" lawsuits. Those cases have nothing to do with software freedom.
- dirkgently 13y ago
  Oh yes, those logos were so very close to Apple logo. Common bully behavior is worse then propitiatory software madness.

userulluipeste 13y ago

"OSX lets me get more stuff done than Linux while maintaining the ability to freely develop programs..." And Windows might be getting you more stuff than OSX, but that was not the point for GNU world, wasn't it? It was about the free and especially the open part. "Apple has yet to sue anyone other than blatant and uninspired copyists" Let's keep a little less brazen attitude about tech and engineering, shall we? Just because lines were crossed in the dark age doesn't mean that those lines aren't in place any more. "Meanwhile, Apple has been advancing in really important ways" I do not deny true innovation, but we all know that the reason for some matters being "really important" is sole for just being Apple-related. "that are not being sufficiently imitated by Windows and Linux" Might it be that not all Apple "advancements" are worth to be "imitated"? "sweet app store" ...and incurable Apple fan-boy.

cjensen 13y ago
The use of the phrase "Apple fan-boy" pretty much destroys your credibility. Try not to do that.
- userulluipeste 13y ago
  It's not my intent to acquire credibility, it is to rise awareness. I got a lot of down-votes in my past comments when I emphasized the use of subliminal Apple-promoting messages. I was aware of the risks I was exposing myself now. Please, try to be moderate when you'll further approach Apple-related subjects.