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People want to live in San Francisco, Marin and the Peninsula specifically because they're not overbuilt. The cousin of NIMBYism is everyone moving to the Bay
by narrator 13y ago
People want to live in San Francisco, Marin and the Peninsula specifically because they're not overbuilt. The cousin of NIMBYism is everyone moving to the Bay Area and demanding they make it just like the overbuilt sprawl that they came from.
- pcwalton 13y agoPeople want to live in San Francisco, Marin and Peninsula because there are jobs there.
- dasil003 13y ago... and don't forget California's ace in the hole: the climate.
- bluedino 13y agoIt was what, 60 the other day in SF when it's been 90-something everywhere else all week? Most people that visit think it's 'cold', they're expecting the hot weather of SoCal
- foobarqux 13y ago"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." -- Mark Twain
- dasil003 13y agoYeah, in the summer. In the winter most people that visit think it's warm. 90% of the country has either unbearable summers or unbearable winters or both, so SF wins despite the micro-climates (also if you don't like the microclimates just relocate 5 miles in any direction). Personally I like seasons, but there is a huge contingent of people for whom some form of California weather is their idea of perfection whether that be LA, San Jose, or San Francisco.
- dsl 13y agoPeople want to live in the city because it is nothing short of amazing in terms of bars, restaurants, city beauty, and many other factors. The jobs are all further south.
- icedog 13y agoNope, I live here because of my job in SF. The city is ugly as hell. The food here costs a fortune. The bars are full of pretentious douches.
- Apocryphon 13y agoPeople, people, the solution to this is a public transit system that is better integrated, efficient, cleaner, and offers 24/7 service. Which will not happen in the Bay Area because of NIMBYism.
- adw 13y agoDensity is kind of the opposite of sprawl. The real problem is European density needs European public services. San Francisco is enormously less livable than London, unfortunately...
- malandrew 13y ago"demanding they make it just like the overbuilt sprawl that they came from." Wat!? No they aren't. This city simply can't sprawl. Most actually would like to see the city manhattanify, or at least become more like Paris (height limit relative to street width) or Munich (99m in city center so church spires are visible). There are entire parts of SoMa that have a parking lot or a 1-2 story auto body shop when a 6-8 floor apartment building could easily occupy that space. The other problem cities have with new buildings is all the complexities that now exist with mixed use commercial/residential buildings. Back in the day, having a ground floor of stores and apartments above was rarely a problem, but the rise of HOAs/ROAs and the equivalent COA for commercial tenants, buildings often end up in litigation because most developments won't even begin until a certain amount of the commercial occupancy has been sold. This leads to a distorted balance between the COAs and the ROA/HOA that is established later after distorted agreements between the two have been put in place. This imbalance then puts buildings under litigation, hurting real estate values.