One thing's definitely weird: of the people I know who've worked through actual adversity (eg: swam their way from north to south korea), very few get their bac

One thing's definitely weird: of the people I know who've worked through actual adversity (eg: swam their way from north to south korea), very few get their back up about other people's whining; if kids today have it easier, great (that's why you made the swim in the first place; why should things be hard?) and if the whining's justified, it's easy to relate to adversity, b/c you know what it's like. This is an interesting point in itself. In general, I think people can react to having overcome adversity extremely differently. From the kind of identity & pride you mention (the falsifiers feeling) to extreme shame. My instinct is that the relatively harder cases tend towards the shame. *BTW, Well said.