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I think this a fairly important inflection point. It's when semantic technologies begin creeping in to the mainstream as semantic technologies rather than obscu

by olefoo 17y ago

I think this a fairly important inflection point. It's when semantic technologies begin creeping in to the mainstream as semantic technologies rather than obscure under the covers functionality as with firefox.

mark_h 17y ago
It's also interesting timing, coming as it does on the heels of their "Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data" paper. I'd have to re-read it to comment, but at least some felt that it was being rather dismissive of semantic-web structures: http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/275/ http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/275/
- rgrieselhuber 17y ago
  I've always thought they were a little too dismissive of semantic web structures, Peter Norvig in particular. But I also thought it was a ploy.
  - smanek 17y ago
    I think the problem is that the semantic web is fundamentally very similar to the sort of 'logical ai' (Prolog, Cyc, etc) that is often blamed for the AI winter. Eliezer made a fairly convincing argument that a lot of this is the result of clever marketing campaign a few decades ago (http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/11/logical-or-conn.html http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/11/logical-or-conn.html)
  - ubernostrum 17y ago
    Well, so far nobody's really addressed the known issues with self-supplied metadata (see http://www.well.com/~doctorow/metacrap.htm http://www.well.com/~doctorow/metacrap.htm for one good and old roundup)...
zmimon 17y ago
It's also much more comprehensible than previous attempts. For your average web developer it's just adding a few attributes here and there as tidbits, and as a benefit, you get bells and whistles from google. The big turning point will be if a browser maker with market share builds support for recognizing them - the minute that happens they will pop up on web pages everywhere.

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I think this a fairly important inflection point. It's when semantic technologies begin creeping in to the mainstream as semantic technologies rather than obscu

by olefoo 17y ago

mark_h 17y ago
It's also interesting timing, coming as it does on the heels of their "Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data" paper. I'd have to re-read it to comment, but at least some felt that it was being rather dismissive of semantic-web structures: http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/275/ http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/275/
- rgrieselhuber 17y ago
  I've always thought they were a little too dismissive of semantic web structures, Peter Norvig in particular. But I also thought it was a ploy.
  - smanek 17y ago
    I think the problem is that the semantic web is fundamentally very similar to the sort of 'logical ai' (Prolog, Cyc, etc) that is often blamed for the AI winter. Eliezer made a fairly convincing argument that a lot of this is the result of clever marketing campaign a few decades ago (http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/11/logical-or-conn.html http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/11/logical-or-conn.html)
  - ubernostrum 17y ago
    Well, so far nobody's really addressed the known issues with self-supplied metadata (see http://www.well.com/~doctorow/metacrap.htm http://www.well.com/~doctorow/metacrap.htm for one good and old roundup)...
zmimon 17y ago
It's also much more comprehensible than previous attempts. For your average web developer it's just adding a few attributes here and there as tidbits, and as a benefit, you get bells and whistles from google. The big turning point will be if a browser maker with market share builds support for recognizing them - the minute that happens they will pop up on web pages everywhere.