4 ms·

The article is written like they were just some regular americans on vacation in Yemen. If my child was out recruiting for Al Qaeda, and preaching to the 9/11 h

by NoPiece 13y ago

The article is written like they were just some regular americans on vacation in Yemen. If my child was out recruiting for Al Qaeda, and preaching to the 9/11 hijackers, I'd hope that I'd be more self reflective about what I could have done differently. Maybe take some responsibility instead of complaining in the New York Times. The son isn't guilty of the father's crimes, but the father may have some responsibility for the son's crimes. The grandson is an innocent victim, but he wasn't targeted. That's an ugly mistake.

kevingadd 13y ago
How can you define a precision drone strike as 'he wasn't targeted'?
- NoPiece 13y ago
  Because precision means location, not who is at the location. According to U.S. officials the killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was a mistake; the actual target was an Egyptian, Ibrahim al-Banna. He wasn't on the target list, he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. If they knew he was there and were secretly targeting him, Obama should be impeached.
  - bigiain 13y ago
    "Because precision means" … something different to what "normal people" mean when they use the word "precision", just like when we use the words "collect" and "no", and our congressional oversight somehow misunderstands us… (or, alternatively, "because that was the least imprecise targeted attack we were capable of at the time")
- Ygg2 13y ago
  He might not have been targeted, but that doesn't justify it. Truth is there is no such thing as a precision drone strike (yet). It's a bit like saying aiming nuke with pin point accuracy. It might have hit its goal, but it destroyed everything else.
flexie 13y ago
It is not an article. It is an op-ed. Those are usually subjective comments. If your son was out recruiting for Al Qaeda or preaching to the 9/11 hijackers you wouldn't want your grandson to be punished for the sins of your son. Also, note that the grandson was killed 2 weeks after a drone killed his father.
- sneak 13y ago
  > recruiting for Al Qaeda This is not illegal. > preaching to the 9/11 hijackers Protected speech. Which sins exactly do you refer to?
omarali 13y ago
> recruiting for Al Qaeda, and preaching to the 9/11 hijackers This is what awlaki said one month after 9/11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Ofg2BacIM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Ofg2BacIM

by NoPiece 13y ago

kevingadd 13y ago

How can you define a precision drone strike as 'he wasn't targeted'?

NoPiece 13y ago
Because precision means location, not who is at the location. According to U.S. officials the killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was a mistake; the actual target was an Egyptian, Ibrahim al-Banna. He wasn't on the target list, he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. If they knew he was there and were secretly targeting him, Obama should be impeached.
- bigiain 13y ago
  "Because precision means" … something different to what "normal people" mean when they use the word "precision", just like when we use the words "collect" and "no", and our congressional oversight somehow misunderstands us… (or, alternatively, "because that was the least imprecise targeted attack we were capable of at the time")
Ygg2 13y ago
He might not have been targeted, but that doesn't justify it. Truth is there is no such thing as a precision drone strike (yet). It's a bit like saying aiming nuke with pin point accuracy. It might have hit its goal, but it destroyed everything else.

flexie 13y ago

It is not an article. It is an op-ed. Those are usually subjective comments. If your son was out recruiting for Al Qaeda or preaching to the 9/11 hijackers you wouldn't want your grandson to be punished for the sins of your son. Also, note that the grandson was killed 2 weeks after a drone killed his father.

sneak 13y ago
> recruiting for Al Qaeda This is not illegal. > preaching to the 9/11 hijackers Protected speech. Which sins exactly do you refer to?

omarali 13y ago

> recruiting for Al Qaeda, and preaching to the 9/11 hijackers This is what awlaki said one month after 9/11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Ofg2BacIM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Ofg2BacIM