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There is a human reason for it. People identify with their tribe. Everyone is guilty of it. It is easier to think of foreigners as silhouettes, mere background

by eshvk 13y ago

There is a human reason for it. People identify with their tribe. Everyone is guilty of it. It is easier to think of foreigners as silhouettes, mere background material for your own play. The Israelis doing it with the Palestinians. The Germans did it with the Jews. In both situations, the citizens of those countries are complicit in whatever happens. Hell, all the rage that I hear on this site right now about civil liberties being violated by TSA is unsurprising to anyone who travels to this country from a third world nation. The funny thing? That has been happening for decades.

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muyuu 13y ago
The Israelis generally decry crimes against the Palestinian people, but they are constantly targeted and take desperate measures every now and then. But it's far from ignored or celebrated by the average Israeli. In this sense America is more of a terrorist State than Israel. Any heavy handed action from the Israeli government faces serious resistance and upheaval from its own populace. Americans largely don't care and you'll find more people justifying it than opposing it.
- eshvk 13y ago
  "generally decry"? I am curious. We are talking about a country which calls itself a democracy, yes? If there is a majority that has a problem with what the government does, it is not clear to me why said majority doesn't take the matter into their own hands and vote a government that, you know does not indulge in "heavy handed action". Of course, if we are talking about anecdotal evidence that the people around you are opposed to crimes against the Palestinian people, carry on.
  - muyuu 13y ago
    Heavy handed action does lose you elections in Israel, which is by many measures more of a democracy than the US or the UK. There is no two-party gridlock. Parties appear and disappear. Compromises are made, settlements have been given up. However they need to draw a line when their very existence is not respected. I honestly don't think anyone could realistically do any better than they are doing, in their position. Lots of people would not accept anything other than Israeli self-destruction.

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muyuu 13y ago

The Israelis generally decry crimes against the Palestinian people, but they are constantly targeted and take desperate measures every now and then. But it's far from ignored or celebrated by the average Israeli. In this sense America is more of a terrorist State than Israel. Any heavy handed action from the Israeli government faces serious resistance and upheaval from its own populace. Americans largely don't care and you'll find more people justifying it than opposing it.

eshvk 13y ago
"generally decry"? I am curious. We are talking about a country which calls itself a democracy, yes? If there is a majority that has a problem with what the government does, it is not clear to me why said majority doesn't take the matter into their own hands and vote a government that, you know does not indulge in "heavy handed action". Of course, if we are talking about anecdotal evidence that the people around you are opposed to crimes against the Palestinian people, carry on.
- muyuu 13y ago
  Heavy handed action does lose you elections in Israel, which is by many measures more of a democracy than the US or the UK. There is no two-party gridlock. Parties appear and disappear. Compromises are made, settlements have been given up. However they need to draw a line when their very existence is not respected. I honestly don't think anyone could realistically do any better than they are doing, in their position. Lots of people would not accept anything other than Israeli self-destruction.