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Look at the Man on the Moon crop. It's clearly not just cropping off the sides. It's anchored to the right. That's what pan-and-scan is. Its done by the studi

Look at the Man on the Moon crop. It's clearly not just cropping off the sides. It's anchored to the right. That's what pan-and-scan is. Its done by the studio so they have some "artistic" control of how the cropping is done. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_and_scan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_and_scan

aspensmonster 13y ago
I thought etler was saying that the Man on the Moon crop wasn't pan-and-scan at all. It was just a complete lopping off of the entire left portion of the film that didn't fit the aspect ratio.
- ivanca 13y ago
  yeah there is no panning or scanning there, that's for sure.
- mikeryan 13y ago
  I'm not saying its well done but just "cropping" would crop to the middle "lopping off the left portion" is a film thats "panned" to the right.
- etler 13y ago
  I do believe it's pan and scan. I just didn't mention it because it wasn't really necessary in my point.
jfb 13y ago
It's not a 4:3 crop, though. I looks to be a full-frame 16:9 one. That makes me think that it's an artifact of Netflix's pipeline, not the encoding house's.
- lelandbatey 13y ago
  However, the original aspect ratio of these films is 2.39:1, and they're being cropped down to 16:9.
- mattstocum 13y ago
  The linked Wikipedia article is mistaken in stating that pan and scan applies only to 4:3. The same technique can, and often is, used to prevent letterboxing when showing a films shot at 2.35:1 on a 16:9 display.
saurik 13y ago
You seem to be arguing, but that's the guy's point: Netflix couldn't be doing this, because the decision in that frame to crop the left off isn't something an automated algorithm is going to do, nor is it reasonable to believe that Netflix has people going through making all of these decisions; the result is that we must believe that Netflix is being given these modified movies by the studios, as opposed it being Netflix's decision to make the modification (as proposed in etler's parent comment by mullingitover).

aspensmonster 13y ago

I thought etler was saying that the Man on the Moon crop wasn't pan-and-scan at all. It was just a complete lopping off of the entire left portion of the film that didn't fit the aspect ratio.

ivanca 13y ago
yeah there is no panning or scanning there, that's for sure.
mikeryan 13y ago
I'm not saying its well done but just "cropping" would crop to the middle "lopping off the left portion" is a film thats "panned" to the right.
etler 13y ago
I do believe it's pan and scan. I just didn't mention it because it wasn't really necessary in my point.

jfb 13y ago

It's not a 4:3 crop, though. I looks to be a full-frame 16:9 one. That makes me think that it's an artifact of Netflix's pipeline, not the encoding house's.

lelandbatey 13y ago
However, the original aspect ratio of these films is 2.39:1, and they're being cropped down to 16:9.
mattstocum 13y ago
The linked Wikipedia article is mistaken in stating that pan and scan applies only to 4:3. The same technique can, and often is, used to prevent letterboxing when showing a films shot at 2.35:1 on a 16:9 display.

saurik 13y ago

You seem to be arguing, but that's the guy's point: Netflix couldn't be doing this, because the decision in that frame to crop the left off isn't something an automated algorithm is going to do, nor is it reasonable to believe that Netflix has people going through making all of these decisions; the result is that we must believe that Netflix is being given these modified movies by the studios, as opposed it being Netflix's decision to make the modification (as proposed in etler's parent comment by mullingitover).