Thanks for the response! I didn't mean for the comment to seem skeptical of what either has done. With regards to Ramit, I know he's fantastic at sales -- I've

Thanks for the response! I didn't mean for the comment to seem skeptical of what either has done. With regards to Ramit, I know he's fantastic at sales -- I've actually bought one of his products and found it worth the cost. I assume his other products are of similar quality, because it takes a lot of proof to get some of those sales he's making. I was just bringing up that it seems like a huge jump to someone working a 9-5 corporate job, and I'm just mentally penciling in "hustle" in how he got from A to B, because I haven't followed his story the whole way, the same as the OP hadn't been following Patrick. I like learning from the story of progression more than a "do this that and the other, but not that."